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Re:Refugees Welcome by mc32 on Wednesday September 02, 2015 @11:43AM (#10159985)
Allowing refugees is a feel good band aid. Yes it does directly benefit those who gain asylum but it does nothing to help the majority left behind.

The real solution is to make positive changes in their homelands, bg force if necessary. This dilly dallying helps no one except radicals bent on violence and the corrupt regimes and Russia's meddling. Europe needs to do something. Sometimes you do need violence to make things better, world war two has left a deep scar on Europe which has made it overly cautious and allergic to necessarily addressing unjust violence.

Re:Refugees Welcome by darkr on Wednesday September 02, 2015 @12:02PM (#10160147)
> world war two has left a deep scar on Europe which has made it overly cautious and allergic to necessarily addressing unjust violence.

I'd say it's probably far more likely due to more recent episodes of liberal interventionism; which has sometimes resulted in relative success (depending on your point of view) e.g Sierra Leone, Bosnia/Herzegovina and Kosovo/Yugoslavia in the early nineties.

More often than not, intervention has resulted in a negative, or otherwise generally messy outcome with unforeseen consequences, e.g Iraq, Afghanistan, <str>Syria</str> Libya.. The poor execution of military intervention by western powers of the latter is arguably at least in part to blame for the current refugee crisis.

Re:Refugees Welcome by dba7dba on Wednesday September 02, 2015 @11:59AM (#10160117)
And the refugees would MUCH MUCH prefer to be in their own homeland with their family/friends/culture.
Re:Refugees Welcome by dba7dba on Wednesday September 02, 2015 @12:07PM (#10160173)
Why am I downvoted? They were forced out from their home due to the conflicts. They are not out on a vacation trip.
Re:Refugees Welcome by jbssm on Wednesday September 02, 2015 @12:49PM (#10160502)
Well, the term refugees is being used too much in this question. There are many refugees, but there are also many economic migrants amongst them.

Receiving the war refugees is certainly different from receiving the economic migrants and we shouldn't mix both things as we are doing lately.

Re:Refugees Welcome by andreasklinger on Wednesday September 02, 2015 @01:09PM (#10160610)
economic migrants dont explain the spike we currently see
Re:Refugees Welcome by barrkel on Wednesday September 02, 2015 @11:49AM (#10160045)
Applied force in their homelands - often at our (the West's) hands - is exactly what is driving many of these migrants.
Re:Refugees Welcome by mc32 on Wednesday September 02, 2015 @11:51AM (#10160055)
You're talking about past action. I mean at this moment. Assad and daesh are the ones which need to be addressed.
Re:Refugees Welcome by tomjakubowski on Wednesday September 02, 2015 @01:04PM (#10160587)
I'm reminded of that children's story, "The Girl Who Swallowed A Fly."
Re:Refugees Welcome by mahouse on Wednesday September 02, 2015 @12:07PM (#10160175)
So what do you suggest, funding ISIS or...? I like how, since al-Assad is "evil", the ISIS is "better"