“Spookiness” Confirmed by the First Loophole-Free Quantum Test

Re:“Spookiness” Confirmed by the First Loophole-Free Quantum... by effie on Friday August 28, 2015 @08:17PM (#10138486)

But that is just regular determinism; everything is determined by the prior state of the system, including the operation of the number generator and the experimenter's movements. As far as physics models go, I cannot see anything absurd about it.

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Re:“Spookiness” Confirmed by the First Loophole-Free Quantum... by n4r9 on Sunday August 30, 2015 @07:27AM (#10143021)

Sorry, I didn't word that very well.

"Regular" determinism doesn't necessarily affect Bell's Theorem. All you need is that the measurement choices at each end are "effectively free for the purpose at hand". The kind of determinism you'd need to actually affect Bell's Theorem is a pathological, conspiratorial one in which the universe is well aware of which measurement choices you are going to make and just sets things up so that you'll get the same outcomes that quantum theory predicts.

This is discussed in Section D of the following paper: http://www-e.uni-magdeburg.de/mertens/teaching/seminar/theme...

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Re:“Spookiness” Confirmed by the First Loophole-Free Quantum... by effie on Sunday August 30, 2015 @12:07PM (#10143657)

That's a very interesting paper, quite well written too. Thanks for the link.

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