Re:“Spookiness” Confirmed by the First Loophole-Free Quantum...
by semi-extrinsic on Friday August 28, 2015 @03:20PM
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Nope. Entanglement has been observed for particles that have never coexisted in time [1]. This would mean that even your overly pedantic counter example requires that we give up free will: since we choose what property to measure, the first particle is unable to simulate the outcome of the second measurement unless it can simulate what we choose. (And yes, it's generally accepted that assuming superdeterminism, aka. no free will, allows a local hidden variable theory.)
[1] http://m.phys.org/news/2013-05-physics-team-entangles-photon...
Re:“Spookiness” Confirmed by the First Loophole-Free Quantum...
by Retric on Saturday August 29, 2015 @12:41PM
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"Requires we give up free will" sure done.
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In other words it still works. Note, it needs not be 100% accurate simulation. If it's good enough we can't tell.
Not that I think reality works this way, but the goal is to look for ways that a theory falls down, not look for evidence in support of a theory.
PS: FTL communication also works as a means to sidestep the need for a lot of quantum weardness. Sure, we don't like it but that does not mean it can't be happening.
For an overly pedantic counter example, each particle could simply simulate the rest of the universe to some finite precision.
PS: That's not to say you can't rule out specific theory's that use local variables. And we should use the simplest theory that works, however it's counter productive to suggest we can rule out all forms of local variables.