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Re:Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013) by markyc on Friday August 28, 2015 @05:58AM (#10134540)
Under very few circumstances do you actually need the visitor's email address

how do you retreive a forgotten password?

Re:Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013) by enno on Friday August 28, 2015 @06:08AM (#10134580)
I believe the point was that you probably don't need the user to make an account. If they don't need an account, they have no password, and you need no email address, unless your true goal is to put as many people as possible on your mailing list and spam them.
Re:Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013) by markyc on Friday August 28, 2015 @06:16AM (#10134601)
actually, in the same paragraph he goes on to say:

In any case, if a login is required, take the absolute minimum of necessary information, ideally only a login name and a password.

maybe better than a login name and password, make it an email address and password. email address seems pretty vital for any kind of future communication

Re:Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013) by dingaling on Friday August 28, 2015 @08:32AM (#10134988)
> email address seems pretty vital for any kind of future communication

That's actually a reason many users don't like supplying an e-mail address. They don't want an ongoing relationship with a website, they just want to buy a box of widgets today. What I do in that case is provide a customised e-mail address and then blacklist it after the item arrives.

As for using e-mail address as the account identifier, if you do that please ensure it can be changed everywhere in your system.

I recently moved to a new domain ( cheaper annual renewal ) and whilst Amazon and eBay were painless for changing e-mail address, many other large operators were messy. Tesco, for example, is still sending half of its communications to my old address.

Re:Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013) by mscharrer on Friday August 28, 2015 @06:20AM (#10134613)
Some sites let the user provide a email address in order to allow password reset, but don't force it. I think this is a good practice.
Re:Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013) by yoz-y on Friday August 28, 2015 @07:13AM (#10134759)
Marco Arment has had problems with this and resumed it quite nicely in the Overcast FAQ (scroll a bit down for the relevant part): https://overcast.fm/skeptics_faq
Re:Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013) by soft_dev_person on Friday August 28, 2015 @06:24AM (#10134622)
If you have any kind of non-tech savvy users, it's a terrible practice, as you would be flooded with support requests on how to get into their accounts with no way of verifiying the actual owner.
Re:Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013) by markyc on Friday August 28, 2015 @06:35AM (#10134655)
yes.. even having an unconfirmed email address can get really messy when you need to get in touch with someone but just can't because the address is invalid