> Flagging an article that's otherwise good for HN, purely because it's behind one of these semi-paywalls, is not an ok use of flagging. We revoke flagging rights from accounts that do that.
> The HN guidelines explicitly call for original sources. We want the best, most substantive version of a story. Other things being equal, we all prefer non-paywalled articles, but when things are not equal, substance should win. When there are standard workarounds to read the content, paywalls are just an inconvenience. The more this comes up, the clearer it gets that we shouldn't ban paywalls.
Re:Hacker Killed by Drone Was 'Secret Weapon'
by JorgeGT on Thursday August 27, 2015 @09:56PM
(#10133345)
All the substance that I am able to access in this case is:
>Hacker Killed by Drone Was ‘Secret Weapon’
>Targeting of Islamic State’s electronics expert shows how digital warfare has upset balance of power on modern battlefield
>By MARGARET COKER in London, DANNY YADRON in San Francisco and DAMIAN PALETTA in Washington Aug. 27, 2015 7:36 p.m. ET
>U.S. and British officials decided earlier this year that a hacker needed to die.
So I don't really understand what the 'Secret Weapon' the title of the post means, or anything more than the fact that according to US and UK officials a hacker needed to die and was indeed killed by a drone. Not much to hold a meaningful discussion really.
Re:Hacker Killed by Drone Was 'Secret Weapon'
by dogma1138 on Friday August 28, 2015 @12:38AM
(#10133755)
Some people might be subscribed to it, some people might be convinced by the synopsis to pay.
Many of the "science" threads on HN lead to paywalled sites where only an abstract or summary is available without login but that's sadly very common these days as it's hard to get access to published papers without having a university login.
That said as far as WSJ goes you can't publish the paywall bypass link, Google removed the "Google Sent Me" chrome extensions for a reason as it was a violation in their opinion.
The Google referral is selective choice by the site owner, it varies from country to country, site to site, and article to article.
Re:Hacker Killed by Drone Was 'Secret Weapon'
by click170 on Thursday August 27, 2015 @10:09PM
(#10133378)
I agree, and was whole-heartedly flagging paywalled articles, until a fellow commentor pointed out that one of the Admins has said that people who do this will face consequences.
Which I think is rather stupid, so I've started using other news sites instead for most of my news. But that's me.
Re:Hacker Killed by Drone Was 'Secret Weapon'
by dogma1138 on Friday August 28, 2015 @12:26AM
(#10133726)
While we can debate the effectiveness or 'legality' of drone strikes why is this case any special?
He's a member of a non-nation state militant organization, he's clearly (as much as this can be in such cases, but ISIS likes to take credit and not to hide it's footprint) responsible for multiple acts of violence which resulted in deaths.
What does it matter if it's an extremist cleric who recruits, incites violence and supports ISIS, AQ, or any other similar organizations through video tapes from a cave or a "hacker" which uses twitter to do the same?
Re:Hacker Killed by Drone Was 'Secret Weapon'
by kuschku on Thursday August 27, 2015 @10:51PM
(#10133506)
Well, from Germany it seems to not work at all.
I archived it through archive.is using your link (which uses X-Forwarded-For to allow wsj to see my IP), and the page looks like this: https://archive.is/HsIiC
Re:Hacker Killed by Drone Was 'Secret Weapon'
by latj on Thursday August 27, 2015 @09:24PM
(#10133208)
I agree. Obama's record is quite clear when it comes to drone assassinations as a cheaper alternative to dragging people in for their day in court-- his own constituents included.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...
> Flagging an article that's otherwise good for HN, purely because it's behind one of these semi-paywalls, is not an ok use of flagging. We revoke flagging rights from accounts that do that.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10032121
> The HN guidelines explicitly call for original sources. We want the best, most substantive version of a story. Other things being equal, we all prefer non-paywalled articles, but when things are not equal, substance should win. When there are standard workarounds to read the content, paywalls are just an inconvenience. The more this comes up, the clearer it gets that we shouldn't ban paywalls.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9717733
>Hacker Killed by Drone Was ‘Secret Weapon’
>Targeting of Islamic State’s electronics expert shows how digital warfare has upset balance of power on modern battlefield
>By MARGARET COKER in London, DANNY YADRON in San Francisco and DAMIAN PALETTA in Washington Aug. 27, 2015 7:36 p.m. ET
>U.S. and British officials decided earlier this year that a hacker needed to die.
So I don't really understand what the 'Secret Weapon' the title of the post means, or anything more than the fact that according to US and UK officials a hacker needed to die and was indeed killed by a drone. Not much to hold a meaningful discussion really.
It was his "hacker" callsign.
Many of the "science" threads on HN lead to paywalled sites where only an abstract or summary is available without login but that's sadly very common these days as it's hard to get access to published papers without having a university login.
That said as far as WSJ goes you can't publish the paywall bypass link, Google removed the "Google Sent Me" chrome extensions for a reason as it was a violation in their opinion.
The Google referral is selective choice by the site owner, it varies from country to country, site to site, and article to article.
Which I think is rather stupid, so I've started using other news sites instead for most of my news. But that's me.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9717601
https://www.google.com.mx/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we...
I archived it through archive.is using your link (which uses X-Forwarded-For to allow wsj to see my IP), and the page looks like this: https://archive.is/HsIiC
And it will work ;)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/27/junaid-hussain-...
Apparently it didn't take Obama long to do another 180 on this issue as well:
"I'm not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker," he told reporters during a news conference in Senegal.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/26/politics/nsa-leak/index.ht...