I would argue however that both Xenforo and phpBB are ridiculously bloated and should hardly be called basic. phpBB more so than Xenforo obviously. None of them offer the far more robust approach of FluxBB.

Thankfully, as FluxBB is opensource, it can be forked and saved from this development direction.

> and should hardly be called basic

That was danneu's point - that any forum that actually implements most of what people will want out of it (just to start with - separate subforums/categories, user permissions, tags, thread and user following, local and email alerts, broad formatting options, media embeds, per-user display settings, etc etc...) is going to be well beyond "basic" just to get a userbase in the first place.