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Re:All evidence points to OOP being bullshit (2013) by zamalek on Thursday August 27, 2015 @07:52AM (#10128854)
OOP, as defined as a set of principles, is a complete load of horse shit. There are many more reasons other than what the article states as to why it doesn't deal with realities of software (e.g. data oriented programming solves some of them). OOP principles are likely one of the reasons it takes so long to train fresh-out-of-college employees, as they first need to learn how to forget that utter bullshit.

However, that does not mean that OOP languages are a bust. It is only the OOP principles that are a problem.

So far my experience goes, I've learned to mostly stop creating analogues of real-world things (as OOP principles would have it), except where it makes sense to, and instead use OOP features to create distinct responsibilities. Turns out OOP languages are identical to, let's say, "responsibility oriented programming" languages.

OOP languages can also be used for other things, as previously mentioned: data oriented programming. DOP is used widely in gamedev. Gamedev also happens to be an industry that heavily uses an OOP language: C++.

Hate the principles, not the languages. There's a big difference.

Re:All evidence points to OOP being bullshit (2013) by lunz on Thursday August 27, 2015 @11:22AM (#10129963)
> stop creating analogues of real-world things

I agree. Almost everything useful around us is the product of ideas with our needs in mind, there was no TV and TV remote control in nature, no vacuum cleaner, clothes, watches... if ever, nature inspired us. We create artitifical things that make us more efficient and effective than it would be by just dealing with raw stones and sticks as they are found in nature. When it comes to today OOP we have to deal with stones and sticks again instead of thinking about a new aritifical thing that directly satisfies our needs (you call it 'responsibility').

Re:All evidence points to OOP being bullshit (2013) by zamalek on Thursday August 27, 2015 @11:38AM (#10130046)
> you call it 'responsibility'

That was simply the closest word I could come up with. You've described what I was trying to say in significantly more detail (thanks!).