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Re:Tesla owner drives 452 miles on single charge by tempestn on Thursday August 27, 2015 @05:04AM (#10128326)
Cool, do you have a source for that rule of thumb? That's a new one for me. That's about 8HP to the wheels to keep it rolling at 100km/h right? So obviously more than that from the engine.

Re: measuring at battery input rather than output, that's a good point. Would definitely be higher that 50% charging efficiency though. I would guess at least 80% - probably > 90% if you charge it slowly enough. (Haven't done any research on Tesla chargers or batteries specifically, but I did used to be a power electronics engineer. High charging efficiency is important both for cost and, perhaps as importantly, because a slight reduction in efficiency can mean a lot of extra heat that you have to deal with.)

Re:Tesla owner drives 452 miles on single charge by kwhitefoot on Thursday August 27, 2015 @06:40AM (#10128575)
Alas i can't remember and a quick web search doesn't find anything I recognize. But I did find this that mentions 10hp at 50mph: http://energy.typepad.com/the-energy-blog/2010/02/energy-nee... And a few hotrodders discussing the question here: http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/how-much-hp-required-60mph-1... This on PhysicsForums: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/power-and-tq-needed-to...

And finally a paper with real formulas and better explanations: http://wps.aw.com/wps/media/objects/877/898586/topics/topic0...

Looks like my 5kW wasn't too far off.