Re:Prison Camps in Siberia
by caio1982 on Thursday August 27, 2015 @12:30PM
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A very good movie about escaping a prison camp in Siberia, by the way (somewhat inspired by real events, but you better take it all with a grain of salt): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_Back
Re:Prison Camps in Siberia
by jkot on Thursday August 27, 2015 @09:50AM
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Good way to compare pre and post revolution Russia is to take number of officers in police and other repressive forces. Tsar had police apparatus comparable to France. Soviets had almost 15% of population in repressive forces.
Re:Prison Camps in Siberia
by guard-of-terra on Thursday August 27, 2015 @09:32AM
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Tsarist russia did not hesitate sending prisoners (including revolutionaries) to Siberia or other prisons, but in the 100 years they probably killed less than early USSR managed in one year, and USSR had multiple of such years.
Where tsarism will bother to send you out communists will just shoot you, problem solved.
UK also was shipping prisoners to Australia where most of them died en route. Oops. Took them several decades to figure shipping out.
Re:Prison Camps in Siberia
by wil421 on Thursday August 27, 2015 @11:30AM
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Interestingly the state I am from, Georgia, was originally envisioned as a debtors colony. It didnt work out as it was planned but I believe some debtors were sent here initially. Debtors were probably treated above prisoners but it was still an arduous journey.
"Between 1788 and 1868, approximately 162,000 convicts were transported to the various Australian penal colonies by the government.[1]
The British government began transporting criminals to overseas colonies in the 16th century. When transportation to the American colonies declined with the move towards American independence in the 1770s, an alternative site was needed to avoid further overcrowding of British prisons and hulks. "
EDIT: spoiler alert, thank you Wikipedia
Where tsarism will bother to send you out communists will just shoot you, problem solved.
UK also was shipping prisoners to Australia where most of them died en route. Oops. Took them several decades to figure shipping out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convicts_in_Australia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convicts_in_Australia
"Between 1788 and 1868, approximately 162,000 convicts were transported to the various Australian penal colonies by the government.[1]
The British government began transporting criminals to overseas colonies in the 16th century. When transportation to the American colonies declined with the move towards American independence in the 1770s, an alternative site was needed to avoid further overcrowding of British prisons and hulks. "