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Re:WebExtensions FAQ by foiboitoi on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @12:19AM (#10121040)
Can't you use the browser without supporting them? I don't like the hypocrisy either but I love the browser (mostly). I do wish the engineers got back into management positions instead of these clueless politicians.
Re:WebExtensions FAQ by geofft on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @01:59AM (#10121313)
You know, it was not that long ago that being a hacker was, itself, a political position: you had thoughts on the power structures of the world and its borders, about US arms-control laws and their relationship to strong cryptography, about whether computer code should be subject to copyright or patent protection, about the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover, about voting technology and algorithms, about computer crime laws, etc.

Then, slowly, the hackers became engineers. The hackers' way of thinking, in many ways, became society's way of thinking, and it was easy enough not to express contrary political opinions. At which point it became easy not to express any at all.

I am an engineer, and what's a "manifesto"? Damn kids, dragging politics into our professional industry... they're all alike.

http://phrack.org/issues/7/3.html

Re:WebExtensions FAQ by foiboitoi on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @03:05AM (#10121517)
The idea that politics isn't conducive to a productive environment isn't strange. "Keep politics at home" is a phrase I've heard all my life. And it's advice that has deescalated many situations and got many non-productive time wasters back on track. I've been in (middle)management before, so I'm not just blowing smoke.
Re:WebExtensions FAQ by icebraining on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @04:07AM (#10121720)
The idea that politics isn't conducive to a productive environment isn't strange.

No, just reactionary and hypocritical. You can't avoid politics, it's present in any social setting, and in any decision you make that affects others, particularly large groups of people (such as - Mozilla users). By shutting out debate, all you're doing is enforcing the political status quo.

Re:WebExtensions FAQ by geofft on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @04:27AM (#10121765)
Yeah, it's not uncommon for people who hold currently-centrist views to discourage dissent, to prefer de-escalating people's opinions, and to regard threats to their power and way of life as non-productive. All of those are way easier than defending currently-centrist views straightforwardly.
Re:WebExtensions FAQ by foiboitoi on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @05:00AM (#10121857)
I'm not talking about government here. Sure fight the status quo of the government. I'm not applying centrist politics. It's neutralist, without left, right or center entering the equation. I know this never works when you're in HR, but it's not theoretical.

Yes there are work environments that deserve abundant politics, rebellion & real resolutions. But most people aren't working in Vietnamese sweatshops or diamond mines in the C.A.R.

Re:WebExtensions FAQ by icebraining on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @06:13AM (#10122043)

  “There is nothing that is not political. Everything is politics.”
Re:WebExtensions FAQ by foiboitoi on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @06:26AM (#10122067)
Politics - Achieving and exercising positions of governance for organized control over a community.

It may be in many places & affect many things but it does not encompass everything. Absolutists are always wrong eventually (no matter how satisfying the quote is).

Re:WebExtensions FAQ by geofft on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @02:24PM (#10125024)
And being in a management position at a company doesn't strike you as organized control of a community?
Re:WebExtensions FAQ by foiboitoi on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @08:22PM (#10126793)
There's no point talking anymore given the fact they you two don't think apoliticism is even possible.
Re:WebExtensions FAQ by icebraining on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @06:35AM (#10122083)
That's the narrow definition; I'm talking about the wider conception of politics.
Re:WebExtensions FAQ by TazeTSchnitzel on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @12:25AM (#10121058)
Engineers don't necessarily share your political leanings.
Re:WebExtensions FAQ by foiboitoi on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @12:42AM (#10121104)
I don't care about their political leaning. Politics doesn't belong in the work environment, especially for management. That includes every "political leaning". Not just the ones we don't like.
Re:WebExtensions FAQ by TazeTSchnitzel on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @08:45AM (#10122494)
No, you do care about political leanings. There's always going to be office politics. What you perceive as "politics" is politics you dislike.