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Re:Ask HN: Why are we people mad at Ashley Madison and not t... by Killswitch on Monday August 24, 2015 @05:20PM (#10112994)
Because they charged money for a delete my account feature, and never actually did it.
Re:Ask HN: Why are we people mad at Ashley Madison and not t... by sheepmullet on Monday August 24, 2015 @07:15PM (#10113434)
If your bank told you it stored your money in a secure safe but in reality was hiding it under the mattress of the account manager, is it wrong to be angry with the bank?

Or to use a rape analogy it's more like I pay you to babysit my daughter and you decide to take her to a seedy part of town to buy drugs and she gets raped.

The real victim is the end user, and not the company.

Re:Ask HN: Why are we people mad at Ashley Madison and not t... by dragonwriter on Monday August 24, 2015 @05:23PM (#10113006)
> Why are we people mad at Ashley Madison and not the hackers?

I dunno. Why are you? (Alternatively, why are you abusing the first person when what you should be using is the third person and identifying precisely who you are talking about?)

More importantly, where is the evidence that people who are mad at Ashley Madison are not also mad at the hackers?

Re:Ask HN: Why are we people mad at Ashley Madison and not t... by 27182818284 on Monday August 24, 2015 @06:07PM (#10113182)
>but my gut reaction is that we are angry at the wrong person

People are mad in general because a lot of what AM promised wasn't really true. For example, its deletion of profiles which they charged for. Also not true seems to be the number of women on the site, which (although estimates very) seems to be very skewed and possibly bolstered with lots of fake profiles.

With respect to the gross negligence, the original hack called out the company and even mentioned someone by name with an apologetic message--as if they knew that person was trying to stop the negligence on the inside but failed. (I doubt it was really bad negligence regardless. it is just more common for negligence to be the normal kind)

Re:Ask HN: Why are we people mad at Ashley Madison and not t... by VOYD on Monday August 24, 2015 @06:06PM (#10113176)
Because people prefer honesty to dishonesty.
Re:Ask HN: Why are we people mad at Ashley Madison and not t... by a_lifters_life on Tuesday August 25, 2015 @01:14PM (#10118005)
The hackers did the right thing. People using AM had it coming to them.
Re:Ask HN: Why are we people mad at Ashley Madison and not t... by photosinensis on Monday August 24, 2015 @04:10PM (#10112659)
The biggest problem is that Avid Life Media has done jack squat in response to the data leak. They've not communicated any kind of risk mitigation strategy. They've not allowed users to change their compromised passwords. They've not made any efforts to contact affected users.

This is like a rape victim not only trying to pretend the whole thing didn't happen, but all the while knowing that her attacker had HIV, has good reason to believe she's seroconverted, and is still having unprotected sex with her regular partners without telling them anything.

While the company is a victim here, their actions are themselves criminally wrong.

Re:Ask HN: Why are we people mad at Ashley Madison and not t... by rabidonrails on Tuesday August 25, 2015 @07:00PM (#10119996)
It's interesting to see AM say nothing and I wonder if this is a well thought out plan. By not confirming the leak (and by practically ignoring it) it leaves their ashamed "users" plausible deniability. So, if your email address showed up on the list, you _could_ deny it as AM never confirmed that it was a real leak.

Just a thought...

Re:Ask HN: Why are we people mad at Ashley Madison and not t... by araxhiel on Monday August 24, 2015 @05:10PM (#10112947)
The analogy of a victim of rape, though crude, is quite right (and left me quite impressed, to be honest).
Re:Ask HN: Why are we people mad at Ashley Madison and not t... by DanBC on Monday August 24, 2015 @05:14PM (#10112965)
The rape analogy is repugnant.
Re:Ask HN: Why are we people mad at Ashley Madison and not t... by JacobAldridge on Monday August 24, 2015 @08:13PM (#10113627)
Yup - 'blaming the victim of a crime' would have been sufficient to make the OP's point, though I know media conversations on the topic are the likely reason why the analogy he chose came to mind.