Help seeking is definitely part of the problem. UK charity "The Campaign Against Living Miserably"[1] and Australian charity(?) "Soften The Fck Up" both campaign to make it easier for men to talk about mental health and to seek help. UK charity "Time to Change" has a number of campaigns to destigmatise mental health, some of which are targeted at men.

But in the UK there has been a rise in rate of suicide amoung people already known to MH services, so we need to be a bit careful not to put all the "blame" on help seeking behaviours.

(I'm interested in other anti-stigma organisations, where ever they're based and whatever demographic they target.)

[1] Calmzone is currently banned from Facebook. I don't know why. https://www.thecalmzone.net/

http://softenthefckup.com.au/ -- they don't censor the word on the website.

http://www.time-to-change.org.uk/

There is a huge stigma around seeking professional help. It can and does cost people there job and sometimes career.

Not to mention it tends to be rather expensive and of limited value.

I think it has more to do with the method than the act. Men are more likely to have guns, which work very well. Women are less likely to have access to guns and so survive more suicide attempts (pills, jumping off things etc).

Same for the military. The 'success rate' for military suicides is higher partially because of ready access to the means.

Which does nothing to explain the similar ratio in say England where access to guns is very restricted.

"Jumping off things" would be "falls and fracture", and it's not a common method for completed suicide. About 4% of registered deaths are "jumping off things". Drowning is a bit more, about 4%. Poisoning is about 20% and hanging, strangulation and suffocation is about 56%. (The rest has the unhelpful title of "other". I'm not sure what that means.)

> Which does nothing to explain the similar ratio in say England where access to guns is very restricted.

Drive a car fast. Just a lethal. Sometimes you hear about car accidents with only one car involved and the young male driver was the only fatality. Sometimes it's an accident. Sometimes it's someone ending it all.