Re:Twitter has killed Politwoops, which monitored politician...
by mattzito on Sunday August 23, 2015 @08:44PM
(#10107348)
No, alas - the Twitter terms of service are very clear. If you are storing a tweet, when someone deletes that tweet you have to delete all of your copies of it. Full stop.
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Re:Twitter has killed Politwoops, which monitored politician...
by themartorana on Sunday August 23, 2015 @08:55PM
(#10107366)
This feels very "right to be forgotten" which was almost universally reviled here. I'm actually surprised there isn't more discussion about the similarities (and similar possible negative outcomes) in light of Twitter's TOS and actions.
Re:Twitter has killed Politwoops, which monitored politician...
by MichaelGG on Sunday August 23, 2015 @08:57PM
(#10107370)
It'd be very hard for Twitter to determine which API account is not honouring deletes.
Re:Twitter has killed Politwoops, which monitored politician...
by nathancahill on Sunday August 23, 2015 @09:22PM
(#10107435)
What? How would that be hard to determine? You need an API key to use the API.
Re:Twitter has killed Politwoops, which monitored politician...
by cinquemb on Sunday August 23, 2015 @09:45PM
(#10107482)
Here, have some api keys: https://github.com/search?l=php&p=4&q=access_token+access_to...
Re:Twitter has killed Politwoops, which monitored politician...
by incepted on Monday August 24, 2015 @12:01AM
(#10107852)
So what? How do you connect that API key to some anonymous web site that saves deleted tweets?
The only way I can think of is for Twitter to publish different deleted tweets to different API keys and then see which one the web site surfaces. Not very hard but not trivial either.
Re:Twitter has killed Politwoops, which monitored politician...
by MichaelGG on Sunday August 23, 2015 @11:57PM
(#10107842)
And how would Twitter know which API key somesitewithtweets.com is using? There are ways, but if the API key user is careful and doesn't allow arbitrary searches (so Twitter can't try searching #someguid and then kill that account) it'd be pretty hard for them to figure it out. They could try adding fake deleted tweets on a per-account basis, then seeing who publishes those. A simple two-account double check or manual intervention would prevent that from leaking info.
Re:Twitter has killed Politwoops, which monitored politician...
by jbigelow76 on Sunday August 23, 2015 @09:45PM
(#10107480)
Then just eschew the Twitter API and scrape the website, then tell Twitter to go pound sand. Doesn't do anything about getting hit with a frivolous lawsuit but that's a different topic.
Re:Twitter has killed Politwoops, which monitored politician...
by zeckalpha on Sunday August 23, 2015 @10:27PM
(#10107573)
That would violate the Twitter ToS, too: https://twitter.com/tos
Re:Twitter has killed Politwoops, which monitored politician...
by jbigelow76 on Sunday August 23, 2015 @11:55PM
(#10107832)
Terms of Service never stops a unicorn.
Re:Twitter has killed Politwoops, which monitored politician...
by ConfuciusSay on Monday August 24, 2015 @05:16PM
(#10112978)
If their TOS prevents someone from taking a photograph of their website on a screen, it probably wouldn't hold up in court.
Re:Twitter has killed Politwoops, which monitored politician...
by zeckalpha on Monday August 24, 2015 @05:25PM
(#10113010)
Then will Politwoops take Twitter to court for fair use of the API?
Re:Twitter has killed Politwoops, which monitored politician...
by ConfuciusSay on Monday August 24, 2015 @05:34PM
(#10113041)
Probably not Politwoops, because they were using the API. But perhaps a successor that did not use the API, but scraped and screenshoted only might have a good chance.
Re:Twitter has killed Politwoops, which monitored politician...
by chisleu on Sunday August 23, 2015 @09:30PM
(#10107455)
publish it somewhere it is magically picked up by a 3rd party who isn't bound by the TOS and republishes somewhere.
problem solved.
Re:Twitter has killed Politwoops, which monitored politician...
by WalterSear on Sunday August 23, 2015 @09:39PM
(#10107473)
Then retweet it.