Safari Is Not the New IE, But…

Re:Safari Is Not the New IE, But… by cwmma on Wednesday August 19, 2015 @11:20AM (#10086059)

When working on client side js it often feels like safari is the modern browser that the most special care is required for. Some of this has to do with not the most recent version but the one one before that (much like the most recent IE was often not reqao, people cursed IE).

Another aspect is OS specificity, MS has made it very easy to debug IE without having windows via VMs they put out specifically for this purpose. Meanwhile there is no amount of money Apple will accept from you to run a mac vm on non Mac hardware. I have fond memories of trying to debug issues with Web Workers in safari via sauce labs.

(disclaimer, I worked with Nolan Lawson on pouchdb and he credits me with coming up with the safari is the new ie phrase)

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Re:Safari Is Not the New IE, But… by progmal1 on Wednesday August 19, 2015 @11:31AM (#10086173)

This was true in the past but, I was under the impression that you could run the server version of OS X on non-mac hardware.

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Re:Safari Is Not the New IE, But… by wolfgke on Wednesday August 19, 2015 @11:37AM (#10086236)

At least by http://www.quora.com/How-do-I-run-Mac-OS-X-on-a-non-Apple-co... and http://www.quora.com/Is-it-illegal-to-install-OS-X-on-non-Ap... it is technically possible (though unstable) to run OS X on non-Apple hardware, but illegal. No mention that it is legal to run the server version of OS X on non-mac hardware.

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Re:Safari Is Not the New IE, But… by progmal1 on Wednesday August 19, 2015 @11:54AM (#10086381)

Maybe I should have been clearer. In the past you were not allowed to run OS X server in a virtual machine on non-apple hardware because of licensing restrictions. They loosened this restriction so that you can run OS X server in a virtual machine on non-apple hardware. Those sources are irrelevant to that.

I was responding to "Meanwhile there is no amount of money Apple will accept from you to run a mac vm on non Mac hardware." And this is not true for OS X server.

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Re:Safari Is Not the New IE, But… by brazzlemobile on Wednesday August 19, 2015 @12:14PM (#10086551)

As far as I know the only restriction they loosened was the number of VMs you could run on Apple hardware. OS X server hasn't been an actual version of their OS for a while, it's just an app in their store now.

That said, I would be thrilled to be proven wrong about this.

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Re:Safari Is Not the New IE, But… by cwmma on Wednesday August 19, 2015 @01:30PM (#10087075)

Can you run safari on osx server?

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Re:Safari Is Not the New IE, But… by Xophmeister on Wednesday August 19, 2015 @11:53AM (#10086378)

IANAL, but is contract infringement actually illegal? It may not be without consequence, but it is against the law?

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Re:Safari Is Not the New IE, But… by amyjess on Wednesday August 19, 2015 @12:08PM (#10086502)

IIRC, it's illegal according to civil law but not illegal according to criminal law.

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