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Re:Münster’s iconic ‘waste of space’ photo keeps on giving by the-dude on Tuesday August 18, 2015 @05:50AM (#10078288)
A little bit of nuance : cyclists do not own the roads. Motorists, cyclists and pedestrians share the roads.

Every motorist also drives his bicycle every now and then and so he knows what it is like and will accommodate.

Which city BTW?

Re:Münster’s iconic ‘waste of space’ photo keeps on giving by RLN on Tuesday August 18, 2015 @05:55AM (#10078305)
Yes I suppose motorists having an appreciation for cyclists is very important.

I'll be in the Amsterdam area. Probably end up actually living in Hoofddorp.

Re:Münster’s iconic ‘waste of space’ photo keeps on giving by riffraff on Tuesday August 18, 2015 @05:56AM (#10078315)
my limited experience, but corroborated by discussion with other people, is that in the Netherlands (and Belgium) cyclists actually own the road, i.e. they always seem to get right of way and give little crap about pedestrians/cars/motorbikes.
Re:Münster’s iconic ‘waste of space’ photo keeps on giving by makeitsuckless on Tuesday August 18, 2015 @06:10AM (#10078343)
Do not mistake Amsterdam city center with the rest of the Netherlands.

In the overcrowded center of Amsterdam, the locals know and understand "the dance" (the last thing a cyclist wants to do is come to a full stop every 20 meters, because it is much more "expensive" for a cyclists than it is for a pedestrian or driver, so instead of playing by the rules of right of way we do the dance of give and take), with the exception of tourists (who don't know the dance and give off confusing and confused body language) and cars (usually from out of town) stupid enough to drive in the city center in the first place.