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Re:Why Calorie Counts Are All Wrong by eddieroger on Monday August 17, 2015 @11:51AM (#10073796)
It's not that simple. You can still eat more of those than your body needs to fuel itself for the day, and then what? Plus, denying your desires completely is the best way to fall hard off the wagon. Like most things in life, it's about the balance. One bad day is recoverable, quitting entirely is not.
Re:Why Calorie Counts Are All Wrong by PopeOfNope on Monday August 17, 2015 @12:03PM (#10073922)
> You can still eat more of those than your body needs to fuel itself for the day

Have you ever tried that? Protein and Fat trigger the release of leptin[0]. Unless you're also eating a lot of fructose[1] with your meat, most people feel like they just can't eat anymore long before they get to the point where they would be eating considerably more energy than their body needs.

I know this from experience. Common wisdom in bodybuilding circles is to get 1g of protein per lean pound of muscle. For me, that's about 140g of protein a day. I find that number almost impossible to hit without the aid of protein powders, from an appetite perspective alone.

[0]: the hormone that tells your brain you're full. [1]: a side effect of processing fructose is the suppression of leptin production.

Re:Why Calorie Counts Are All Wrong by rancur on Monday August 17, 2015 @12:14PM (#10074017)
> Have you ever tried that? Protein and Fat trigger the release of leptin[0]. Unless you're also eating a lot of fructose[1] with your meat, most people feel like they just can't eat anymore

that's what happens to me

when it's proteins and vegetables, I find it just stays with me for 6 hours or 8 until I need it; otherwise just passes through. Carbs are too easy to jidest* and don't get that chance, nor do they carry any vitamins/minerals/nutrients worth picking out along the way.

in conclusion, I am amazing at life, and I need another beer

> 140g of protein

you, sir, are also amazing at life. I only need about 60. Envy your deity status.

Re:Why Calorie Counts Are All Wrong by srtjstjsj on Monday August 17, 2015 @12:25PM (#10074117)
jidest ?
Re:Why Calorie Counts Are All Wrong by rancur on Monday August 17, 2015 @12:29PM (#10074155)
with a username like yours, I would I think you would understand
Re:Why Calorie Counts Are All Wrong by dllthomas on Monday August 17, 2015 @12:16PM (#10074035)
You know, from experience, that this is the way it works for everyone? :p
Re:Why Calorie Counts Are All Wrong by PopeOfNope on Monday August 17, 2015 @02:13PM (#10074978)
The beautiful part about this particular topic is the ease with which it can be verified or debunked. Try it for yourself and report back!
Re:Why Calorie Counts Are All Wrong by dllthomas on Monday August 17, 2015 @04:20PM (#10075837)
Yes, clearly my adding one more data point would be conclusive about how it works for everyone.
Re:Why Calorie Counts Are All Wrong by rancur on Monday August 17, 2015 @12:12PM (#10073998)
> denying your desires completely

who said anything about completely? I just said to get them under control. False dichotomy.