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Re:The US digital service by niels_olson on Friday August 14, 2015 @01:17PM (#10061365)
Navy doc here. One project where a huge difference could be made, now, would be if smart people could hold Leidos to task with the new military health care system. It's something like $16 billion dollars and "integrating with the VA proved to be too expensive".

Many thanks to the folks at 18f and the US Digital Service.

How far behind is government IT? I'm trying to get the Navy HPC systems (the cutting edge, right?) to "modernize" to Python 2.7.

Re:The US digital service by onalark on Friday August 14, 2015 @02:21PM (#10061840)
Hi Niels. I have contacts within the DoD HPCMP and have run Python 2.7 on several of the heavy machines available on the Army side of the fence. I work for Continuum, which provides both a free and a commercial Python solution that are basically "drag-and-drop" installs on x86 hardware, and when I was at the Army Corps of Engineer Research Lab I worked on an open source tool called HashDist that, among other things, simplifies the deployment of Python stacks on HPC hardware. Feel free to get in touch with me via my contact information at http://aron.ahmadia.net if I can be any help.
Re:The US digital service by kathypham on Friday August 14, 2015 @03:50PM (#10062476)
Thank you for this feedback! Adding to what Nacin said about our involvement. We have started work in this space, and care deeply about the electronic health record systems at both the DOD and VA, and connecting critical information between the two systems, as well as data exchange with private sector (downtown). Also, major kudos to being a Navy doc who understands what it means to upgrade Python!
Re:The US digital service by nacin on Friday August 14, 2015 @01:42PM (#10061531)
Thank you for your service!

There's a ton happening here. From http://www.nextgov.com/defense/2015/04/dod-start-its-own-dig...: "The new team is already working to transfer electronic health records to the Department of Veterans Affairs from DOD."

Re:The US digital service by philsnow on Friday August 14, 2015 @02:11PM (#10061756)
What's new in python 2.7 that requires upgrading ?

I prefer writing python in the least-clever way I can, which doesn't require a lot of language features.

Re:The US digital service by kingkilr on Friday August 14, 2015 @02:15PM (#10061790)
Wearing my python core dev hat: a litany of security fixes, python3 compatibility stuff, useful stdlib modules, dict and set comprehensions, probably more stuff I can't remember.
Re:The US digital service by schoen on Friday August 14, 2015 @03:40PM (#10062392)
One change that comes to mind that someone might see as trivial: "{}".format("foo") works in 2.7 and not in 2.6 (in 2.6 it must be "{0}".format("foo")).
Re:The US digital service by fluidcruft on Friday August 14, 2015 @01:41PM (#10061527)
> I'm trying to get REDACTED to "modernize" to REDACTED

Loose lips sink ships, doc.

Re:The US digital service by niels_olson on Friday August 14, 2015 @02:29PM (#10061898)
As a general rule, I try to avoid saying things like that unless they're published elsewhere. In this case, they advertise the info. And best of luck getting into these systems without a clearance.

http://centers.hpc.mil/users/COSTQuickRef.html#Python

Re:The US digital service by crazypyro on Friday August 14, 2015 @02:10PM (#10061745)
Can you elaborate on your point for others?
Re:The US digital service by schoen on Friday August 14, 2015 @02:15PM (#10061785)
I think the notion is that knowing what software versions a government IT system is using internally will help attackers, for example because they'll know about likely vulnerabilities in those systems. There are definitely some attackers who are interested in, say, government and military healthcare IT systems, because they can use those to get personnel records (or maybe even more nefarious applications).

"Loose lips sink ships" is a World War II campaign slogan to get people who had knowledge of military activities not to talk about what they knew, even things they thought were completely innocuous, because sometimes even a small piece of information was relevant to letting an adversary deduce something important.

Re:The US digital service by Lawtonfogle on Friday August 14, 2015 @04:11PM (#10062613)
In this case it gives an increased false sense of safety in having security by obscurity, which ends up being the worse path.