Even when told not to, Windows 10 doesn't stop talking to Microsoft

Re:Even when told not to, Windows 10 doesn't stop talking to... by wfo on Thursday August 13, 2015 @12:33PM (#10055392)

Terms and conditions as a requirement to use a product you've already purchased shouldn't ever count for anything. So I think you should trash any terms. And I'd hope in a civilized country if a company tries to use mandatory-accept 300 page terms and conditions to abuse their customers a judge would step in and say "no."

And this is absolutely unexpected. That's why there's a very popular post on ars technica and hacker news and reddit with tons of well-informed technical people surprised about it and pretty pissed off.

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Re:Even when told not to, Windows 10 doesn't stop talking to... by RaleyField on Thursday August 13, 2015 @03:01PM (#10056440)

> in a civilized country if a company tries to use mandatory-accept 300 page terms and conditions

If you don't like 300 pages of ToS then don't buy Windows. It's your free choice. Software should be protected speech. I don't like Windows 10, but then I also think that Microsoft should have the right to write Windows however they like as long as they don't factually lie in their privacy statement and other documents.

> to use a product you've already purchased

The person who sold you Windows should've informed you of the license.

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Re:Even when told not to, Windows 10 doesn't stop talking to... by wfo on Tuesday August 18, 2015 @01:24AM (#10077708)

> It's your free choice.

No, it isn't. Very few choices in a very capitalist society are actually free, they are free in the sense that choosing to comply or not with a gun to your head is "free". Which is why regulation is necessary. Burying anything significant in a ToS is in our society meaningless, because if it actually had teeth it would be fraud.

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