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Re:2015 Engineering Salaries Reviewed by s73v3r on Wednesday August 12, 2015 @05:34PM (#10050780)
"If you're starting a startup in San Francisco...well, don't do it. Unless your customer base is here, you should go somewhere cheaper."

The money is in SF, though. And the money has shown no interest in moving.

Re:2015 Engineering Salaries Reviewed by timr on Wednesday August 12, 2015 @05:48PM (#10050882)
By "the money", I assume you mean "the investors". Most customers are not in the bay area.

Anyway, here's a startup protip: make a business that is growing revenue like crazy, and investors will give you money no matter where your offices are. Move to SF without a business that is growing revenue like crazy, and they probably won't give you money.

...but you'll be able to take a zipcar to Sand Hill Road for the rejection. That's worth something, right?

Re:2015 Engineering Salaries Reviewed by MCRed on Wednesday August 12, 2015 @07:30PM (#10051454)
I think at this point those who locate in the bay area see getting VC money as success, and whatever comes after as resume padding. Anyone who is ready to build a real fast growing business is not going to go to the one place in the world where the costs are astronomical (except maybe for a small titular HQ with the CEO while the rest of the company is in cleveland or something). Everything is super expensive, and to be honest, there's a lot of investor money, but most of it I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole-- the cost of that money is astronomical as well.
Re:2015 Engineering Salaries Reviewed by dsfhsdfjkfsd on Wednesday August 12, 2015 @06:07PM (#10051023)
>make a business that is growing revenue like crazy

...so your protip basically amounts to "make money to make money"?

Thanks, underpants gnomes.

Re:2015 Engineering Salaries Reviewed by s73v3r on Friday August 14, 2015 @01:16PM (#10061355)
Depending on what your startup is, a lot of your early customers are probably going to be in the Bay Area. But yes, I was referring to the investors.

"Anyway, here's a startup protip: make a business that is growing revenue like crazy"

Really? That's all? And I'm sure that to make my product better, all I have to do is write code with less bugs!