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Re:How Cheap Can Solar Get? by Jedd on Wednesday August 12, 2015 @08:36AM (#10047342)
Understood, but I find solar too ambiguous. Like when people talk about nuclear. I like the idea of fusion reactors, but steadfastly oppose fission. Solar tech has two big branches, and conflating them is something we should stop doing any time now.

As to influence - I think HN types are more informed than the GP, so in our bubble it may be hard to speculate accurately on any such influence. By which I mean, if you're not informed about the technology or the trends, then any intrusion of these technologies into your life will be more significant. Perhaps I am wrong.

For Scotland I would think we're some way off a sufficiently efficient cell, given hours and angles of incidence of sunlight.

Disclaimer - I'm in Australia, about 35 degrees south, and to be candid don't really understand how even places like Germany have so much love for PVCs ;)

How do you think the fact that natural gas is guaranteed to decrease in availability / increase in cost (over the long term) compared to the guarantee solar will decrease in cost, will influence users? And how do you think the idea of users being able, or being primed, to think of themselves as producers as well as consumers will influence their decisions on power?

Re:How Cheap Can Solar Get? by pjc50 on Wednesday August 12, 2015 @08:58AM (#10047436)
I have a 3.8kW rated system (cost about £5k) at about 56N, and it actually produces that much on clear summer days. Currently it's grey outside and outputting about 2kW (I can ssh into the computer looking at the meter). The high latitude does mean extended summer days. Admittedly it probably wouldn't be viable without subsidy today.

I don't think individuals are very good at adapting to the long term market. If I know gas will be more expensive in 5 years, I can't do very much with that today. There's also the old "the market can stay irrational longer than you stay solvent": if I invest too early I can just as easily lose money.

In the UK, I think the general public are ahead of the media and politicians on the issue. There's a noisy anti-environmentalist and anti-windfarm contingent, but most people recognise the tradeoffs. I don't think people want to be their own producer en masse, any more than grow their own food or be their own bank, but if they can make a capital investment that saves money and produces income then you're speaking the right language to the middle class.

People might start to get vocal when gas prices go up in the UK; complaints about fuel poverty and demands for more fracking. It'll require a long period of gas being more expensive than electricity for fuel and heating for people to switch their homes over.