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Re:Thunderstrike 2: Mac firmware worm details by sandGorgon on Tuesday August 11, 2015 @09:37PM (#10045535)
question for you - Secure Boot basically screws up the ability to boot Linux OSes. From this article, it seems Secure Boot is a good thing.

How do you see this working out in the longer term - is there a Secure Boot alternative that allows freedom to boot Linux, yet protects against vulnerabilities like these ?

Re:Thunderstrike 2: Mac firmware worm details by TheDong on Wednesday August 12, 2015 @12:13AM (#10045970)
SecureBoot implementations often let a user, via some means, add additional keys that they trust.

Any user can simply create their own key, sign their own firmware, linux, and what have you with it, and then boot away.

Unfortunately, Microsoft mandates secure boot but doesn't require the feature of adding keys to be present... so the reality is a bit more grim.

The reality is that most distros have managed to get a signing key from microsoft (and those that haven't, there's a grub shim signed by such a key) that is included by default in microsoft certified secureboots. This has been working, but is not as ideal.

Re:Thunderstrike 2: Mac firmware worm details by mjg59 on Wednesday August 12, 2015 @03:25AM (#10046535)
> Secure Boot basically screws up the ability to boot Linux OSes

Not really. The barrier to obtaining a signed bootloader isn't that large, and if you're unwilling or unable to do that you can use http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20303.html and just oblige your users to jump through an additional (easily documented) hoop. We had legitimate concerns over the impact of Secure Boot on free operating systems, and for the most part we were able to reach some reasonable solutions.

Re:Thunderstrike 2: Mac firmware worm details by sandGorgon on Wednesday August 12, 2015 @11:48AM (#10048366)
does the shim solution not lead to this exact same security problem ?
Re:Thunderstrike 2: Mac firmware worm details by mjg59 on Wednesday August 12, 2015 @03:29PM (#10050064)
No. How would it?
Re:Thunderstrike 2: Mac firmware worm details by abrowne on Tuesday August 11, 2015 @10:44PM (#10045732)
Linux distributions can and do support Secure Boot. I know Fedora, Ubuntu, and OpenSUSE do. FreeBSD is planning[1].

[1]: https://wiki.freebsd.org/SecureBoot

Re:Thunderstrike 2: Mac firmware worm details by josteink on Wednesday August 12, 2015 @02:25AM (#10046364)
> Secure Boot basically screws up the ability to boot Linux OSes.

Funny. And here I thought I was secure booting Ubuntu already.

I think this issue was resolved 2 or 3 years ago.