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Re:When Phone Encryption Blocks Justice by lawlessone on Tuesday August 11, 2015 @09:17AM (#10040752)
Those passcodes aren't usually long?

I'm not trying to add to the debate here but couldn't they brute force it?

Re:When Phone Encryption Blocks Justice by huxley on Tuesday August 11, 2015 @09:34AM (#10040897)
You can set your iPhone to secure erase after 10 failed pass-code attempts.

In addition you can use long alphanumeric pass codes and even the default new passcode option is being increased to 6 digits (though you can choose a 4 digit option).

This renders the brute force option pretty useless. Which I'm fine with, I don't want to make things easier for crooks or identity thieves.

Re:When Phone Encryption Blocks Justice by joshstrange on Tuesday August 11, 2015 @09:49AM (#10041004)
There are ways around that still http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/19/iphone-bruteforce-pin/

In this case they cut the power to the device before it can write to memory the failed attempt (IIRC) allowing them to keep trying over and over (with a small delay for the phone to restart every 9 tries).

Re:When Phone Encryption Blocks Justice by dtech on Tuesday August 11, 2015 @09:41AM (#10040950)
Would that work against a determined opponent with physical access?

Unless the iPhone has some fairly high-grade encryption hardware I suspect you can just do fun things like copy the (encrypted) storage/key to brute-force it without the safety mechanisms kicking in.

Re:When Phone Encryption Blocks Justice by huxley on Tuesday August 11, 2015 @11:36AM (#10041818)
It does have some pretty fancy encryption hardware and Apple seems to have made it very difficult to do even with physical access.

David Schultz wrote a pretty comprehensive article about it:

http://www.darthnull.org/2014/10/06/ios-encryption

Re:When Phone Encryption Blocks Justice by probablyfiction on Tuesday August 11, 2015 @09:27AM (#10040844)
After a certain number of failed attempts, newer devices lock themselves.
Re:When Phone Encryption Blocks Justice by geographomics on Tuesday August 11, 2015 @09:40AM (#10040935)
According to this writeup, that may be worked around by resetting the device after every few attempts: http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/?p=5106 (penultimate paragraph)
Re:When Phone Encryption Blocks Justice by jhasse on Tuesday August 11, 2015 @09:26AM (#10040830)
Exactly! Most of the time they are 4 digits. Also what about finger prints on the phones?