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Re:G is for Google by rob_lh on Monday August 10, 2015 @05:05PM (#10037330)
They were absolutely pitched as huge ideas that would change everything we know about email and social networks. Bearing the scars of their public failures, Google started calling new projects moonshots to shape perception of the programs as chasing ideas, while preemptively deflecting any criticism of their readiness or desirability to large markets. They are not materially different from moonshots except in presentation.
Re:G is for Google by dzhiurgis on Monday August 10, 2015 @05:39PM (#10037584)
What huge ideas? Social network inside a browser was never a new idea, no matter how hard Google was pitching.
Re:G is for Google by rob_lh on Monday August 10, 2015 @05:44PM (#10037617)
Circles for different messages to different groups, as well as the universal profile for logging into all your favorite Google services. It's not my fault these were harebrained ideas, but they were presented as revolutionary. The ideas are still arguably revolutionary (Slack delivers where Wave failed) but Google's execution was lacking. Same fundamental issue facing so many of their other programs.
Re:G is for Google by jacquesm on Monday August 10, 2015 @06:00PM (#10037723)
Hyves in NL had the 'circles' thing before Facebook even existed, let alone before Google went public with G+.
Re:G is for Google by rob_lh on Monday August 10, 2015 @06:15PM (#10037800)
And the Russians dreamed of going to the moon but that's the rub with consumer products - the market has to accept them for it to be an accomplishment. Google thought they'd found the magic recipe and pitched it as something for everyone that was a huge breakthrough. Being first with features or flows doesn't matter at all. The only thing that matters is making it relevant to users' lives, which all parties failed at. Circles is a bad model for a mass market.
Re:G is for Google by jacquesm on Tuesday August 11, 2015 @03:53AM (#10039611)
Hyves had big acceptance in NL at some point it was one of the largest websites here, Facebook ate their lunch.