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My intuition tells me that that is an overstatement.

I’m probably just bad at it.

Is it the #2 most common passion project here though.

It seems disingenuous to you because you disagree with it? Seems like a misapplication of that particular word.

The irony is that this comment is less informative than the thing that it is criticizing. Basic summary: the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Which is as informative as claiming that the truth is on some kind of binary extreme.

A further irony is the meta-complaining about simplification while being as bare-bones simplistic as it gets. “No! They are wrong!” Really? That’s not what the Twitter thread says at all. For example, it claims that misinformation is not a problem but that the real problem is biased sharing.

The Twitter thread makes a series of concrete claims about social media which can be fact checked. The comment above, however, does not. 4/10.

Then the intuition of random commenters is worth close to nothing.

“The only thing”—only half of all weekdays if one follows the in-bed-for-eight hours recommendation. And you of course have to eat and groom yourself outside of those hours.

I’m not saying that you are wrong. But it seems weird to dismiss a whopping 40 hours a week as a seemingly small thing.

> Programming is the new literacy. People who can do it are on a different plane to people who can't.

This is what I believe sometimes.

Then I look at all the pitfalls of shell scripts and how the time investments on automation tasks just balloon… then not so much. :)

But if people have a different experience with that then I don’t doubt it.

It could be.

But this is Hacker News so it often means something hacker-related.

> “Proper education” is student, culture and even teacher dependent. There is no singular best practice.

In my experience it is not productive to have this kind of conversation with teachers since they will go back and forth between (1) general, vague praise for mass education, and then (2) vacuous, relativistic statements that says nothing about education other than “it’s relative” once they are confronted with concrete problems.

They seem to identify too strongly with their teacher identity to be up for that discussion.

Productive is a meaningless word in this context. You can productively work for or against the best interests of society at large.

Why does there need to be passion project? He could study philosophy or do whatever that one can do in an office by oneself.

> This is to Danish parliament. I wonder if the research he is quoting applies to (a) a larger country (b) with a heterogeneous population that (c) communicates primarily in English (where most misinformation seems to be aimed).

Are you talking about India?

> I intuitively believe that there's truth to all of these so called myths, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

His opinions are based on claimed research while yours are based on intuition. I’d sooner trust his opionions compared to yours because he at least could be exposed as a liar if it turns out that the research doesn’t back up his opinions. You on the other hand would at worst be called naive.

Mindfulness is an English translation of the Buddhist word “sati” which Buddhists use to describe one particular quality of meditation. To dismiss it because some people have coopted it would be like, well, to dismiss the yoga tradition because of “yoga pants”.

I have not been personally affected, no.

Fair enough.

Being one of the safest is not the same as being crime free.

A lot of what teachers do is exactly just that—basically talking at the pupils, as if they were vessels who are supposed to have their heads filled up with knowledge.

Proper learning is supposed to be more active and pupil-directed. Look at the Deweyite schools in America.

If you find that to be a belittling description then I’m sorry, but that’s largely what teachers do. And it’s been critiqued for a long time by thoughtful people who care about pedagogy, so you can’t simply dismiss it as some kind of “woe be the state of education” phenomenom.

It seems that adolescents tend to like to sleep for longer than older adults. That just seems how people are wired at different stages of life; nothing wrong with either preference. But the older adults run society, which means that getting up early is seen as the “productive” and “A-type” thing to do, and in turn we end up structuring people’s schedules accordingly. Adolescents of course don’t get a vote on when school is supposed to start.

Conquerors and national movements of the past should have had more ecological awareness.

That seems like such a middle class worry. I don’t see how people with tens of millions of USD (or equivalent of course) are more susceptible to opportunistic crimes like robberies and car jackings. If anything they are less susceptible since they can move to nicer places.

I don’t really see how this is a problem unless you hide your money in your mattress.

The emergence of modern states happened with the industrial revolution and the ascendence of the bourgeoisie. The original point of this centralization of power—although some are now a bit more egalitarian—is to protect private property and the interests of those who own it. And by that I of course mean the rich.

I live in Scandinavia. I refuse to believe that Scandinavia was ever virtually crime free. Anti-social behavior has always existed (also here).

lmao.

Is the one percent that powerless?

> People have even less family wealth in less stable places

But we’re comparing whites and blacks in America, so the old “but people are starving in Africa” doesn’t apply here.

So why is there a disparity of family wealth between whites and blacks in America? Any alternative theories? Because “but the bombing of Dresden…!!!” does not explain it.

> Yes, undeniably so, but the same applies to non-Asian groups.

You’re the one who wanted to focus on Asians:

> > As usual in the American racial discourse, this argument entirely ignores the huge gaping hole in its side that is the Asian community.

But now that you aren’t managing to prove your point you (perhaps) want to broaden the topic again. Or?

> Nigerian Americans have the highest # of PhDs per 1000 people. Albanian Americans (white) are among the poorest Americans, while Russians are among the richest ones.

Ok? Racism is huge topic and can manifest itself in a lot of different ways. One type of racism would be to be mean to an African-looking person, and ~~an African~~ a Nigerian could be confused with an African-American. But that’s not really the kind of racism that is relevant here.

Again, not sure what point you’re trying to make with this specific paragraph.

> As usual, there is a lot more diversity within the big racially defined groups than among them.

What people like you (or people who make the same points as you do) fail to realize is that disparity of outcomes among non-whites does not disprove racism, or prove that group X just need to study/work harder.

One could theorize that the descendants of chattel slavery will have (for example) less family wealth than whites who are descendants of property owners and indentured servants. For example. And that’s a result of racist policies like slavery and lack of equal legal rights (of course blacks have less wealth to this day since blacks gaining equal legal rights did not even the playing field with regards to wealth…).

Take your point about Nigerians for example. An African-American descendant of slaves and a Nigerian expat PhD-holder who works and lives in America will have about zero common background. Zero! The common experience they will have while living in America is to be treated like blacks. But their family background and upbringing will be as different as that of another Nigerian and a white American. So does that mean that racism isn’t really a thing? Not really. The African-American will still have been held back by racism.

> Given the generally accepted ideal of equality in the rich and educated world

It isn’t a generally accepted ideal in the West.

And where it is accepted it might just be (if you read the fine print) some kind of equality like "equal opportunity to participate in the rat race".

It isn’t surprising that groups like descendants of chattel slavery who have had the same legal rights as white people for about half a century are systematically worse off than groups like middle class immigrants from East Asia.