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Re:Perplexity Deep Research on Monday February 17, 2025 @03:43PM (#43083114)
imho, the people who remain skeptical of AI abilities are those who are not using personal AI assistants in earnest. ChatGPT-4o already has persistent memory, detailed user customizations, web search, voice input and output, and the ability to analyze and correctly interpret text files, image files, and live videos. I also use Perplexity.ai as my replacement for Google searches as I far prefer their curated "needle" responses to the chaotic "haystack" listing's from Google.

Can these AIs really reason? Well, as a little demo I asked ChatGPT-4o to summarize the dialogue here in this thread so far. Here is the response:

Perplexity Deep Research Discussion on Hacker News

Summary:

The Hacker News discussion on Perplexity’s new Deep Research feature showcases a mix of excitement, skepticism, and critical evaluation from the tech community.

Key Points:

General Reception: Many users appreciate Perplexity’s Deep Research for its structured approach to AI-assisted research. Some users claim it’s significantly more useful than OpenAI’s standard search, but others remain skeptical about its actual depth.

Criticism of AI-generated Content: A major complaint is that AI models, including Perplexity, produce authoritative-sounding responses that lack true depth or insight. Some users feel they are just "search engines on steroids" rather than truly analytical tools.

Benchmarking Issues: Several users note that while Deep Research can pull from multiple sources, it often lacks deeper contextual understanding. It sometimes synthesizes information incorrectly, making its research appear surface-level.

Comparison with OpenAI & Google: Some users argue that Perplexity is improving AI search capabilities beyond Google, especially in integrating non-traditional sources. Others believe OpenAI’s Deep Research is better but expensive, making Perplexity’s free offering an attractive alternative.

Utility for Experts vs. Non-Experts: Many users suggest that Deep Research is more useful for general users than experts. If someone is already deeply knowledgeable in a field, the AI's summarization often misses key nuances.

Monetization & Viability: Some skepticism exists around the sustainability of Perplexity's business model, with users arguing that AI search platforms are currently burning venture capital and may struggle to turn a profit.

Concerns about Citations & Reliability: Users criticize how Perplexity presents sources, stating that its citation approach feels misleading—more like "stitched-together snippets" rather than truly analyzed references.

Speed vs. Accuracy Debate: Some users are impressed by how quickly Deep Research generates reports, but others argue that OpenAI's slower but more thorough approach is preferable.

Analysis & Takeaways:

Incremental Improvement vs. Breakthroughs: Many see AI progress as incremental rather than revolutionary, with Deep Research being a step forward but not a game-changer.

Trust in AI Research Remains Low: Despite AI advancements, skepticism persists about whether AI can truly replace human research, particularly in specialized fields.

The AI Search War Is Heating Up: With OpenAI, Google, and Perplexity competing for dominance in AI-driven search, it’s clear that search engines will continue evolving into AI-powered knowledge synthesis platforms.

Bottom Line:

Perplexity's Deep Research is promising but not flawless. While some users find it a viable replacement for Google, many believe it lacks true research capabilities and merely repackages existing information. Its future success will depend on whether it can provide genuinely deep insights rather than just well-structured summaries.

Re:Perplexity Deep Research on Monday February 17, 2025 @03:35PM (#43083061)
imho,those who remain skeptical of AIs reasoning skills are folks who don't really use personal AI assistants in earnest. ChatGPT-4o has persistent memory, detailed user customizations, web search, speech input/output, project-specific customization, and can analyze text files, image files, or live video. It is truly an expert mentor/collaborator available 24×7 for US$ 20 per month. I also use Perplexity.ai as my replacement for Google searches. Can these tools really think? Well, I asked ChatGPT-4o to summarize the conversation here in this thread so far. It responded as follows: Perplexity Deep Research Discussion on Hacker News

Summary:

The Hacker News discussion on Perplexity’s new Deep Research feature showcases a mix of excitement, skepticism, and critical evaluation from the tech community.

Key Points:

General Reception: Many users appreciate Perplexity’s Deep Research for its structured approach to AI-assisted research. Some users claim it’s significantly more useful than OpenAI’s standard search, but others remain skeptical about its actual depth.

Criticism of AI-generated Content: A major complaint is that AI models, including Perplexity, produce authoritative-sounding responses that lack true depth or insight. Some users feel they are just "search engines on steroids" rather than truly analytical tools.

Benchmarking Issues: Several users note that while Deep Research can pull from multiple sources, it often lacks deeper contextual understanding. It sometimes synthesizes information incorrectly, making its research appear surface-level.

Comparison with OpenAI & Google: Some users argue that Perplexity is improving AI search capabilities beyond Google, especially in integrating non-traditional sources. Others believe OpenAI’s Deep Research is better but expensive, making Perplexity’s free offering an attractive alternative.

Utility for Experts vs. Non-Experts: Many users suggest that Deep Research is more useful for general users than experts. If someone is already deeply knowledgeable in a field, the AI's summarization often misses key nuances.

Monetization & Viability: Some skepticism exists around the sustainability of Perplexity's business model, with users arguing that AI search platforms are currently burning venture capital and may struggle to turn a profit.

Concerns about Citations & Reliability: Users criticize how Perplexity presents sources, stating that its citation approach feels misleading—more like "stitched-together snippets" rather than truly analyzed references.

Speed vs. Accuracy Debate: Some users are impressed by how quickly Deep Research generates reports, but others argue that OpenAI's slower but more thorough approach is preferable.

Analysis & Takeaways:

Incremental Improvement vs. Breakthroughs: Many see AI progress as incremental rather than revolutionary, with Deep Research being a step forward but not a game-changer.

Trust in AI Research Remains Low: Despite AI advancements, skepticism persists about whether AI can truly replace human research, particularly in specialized fields.

The AI Search War Is Heating Up: With OpenAI, Google, and Perplexity competing for dominance in AI-driven search, it’s clear that search engines will continue evolving into AI-powered knowledge synthesis platforms.

Bottom Line:

Perplexity's Deep Research is promising but not flawless. While some users find it a viable replacement for Google, many believe it lacks true research capabilities and merely repackages existing information. Its future success will depend on whether it can provide genuinely deep insights rather than just well-structured summaries.