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Re:List of prices of medieval items (2009) on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @12:03PM (#11621814)
Do I?

I don't know, it doesn't look like things are much different. There's still lords and there's still servants.

Re:List of prices of medieval items (2009) on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @12:01PM (#11621804)
Wow, nice strawman there.

Isn't it enough evidence that laborers back then could buy a good property in the city for 2.5 years of work, and now you'd have to get a very good salary and be lucky to be able to afford the same in maybe 20, 25 years?

But given the way you've attacked me, I don't think anything I write here will change your mind.

Re:List of prices of medieval items (2009) on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @08:33AM (#11619956)
> It's hard to compare directly.

It is. But still, if we think about the improvements we've had in terms of technology and compare them to the "political" changes in society (which are nil), you gotta sit down and think for a while. We're basically still stuck in 0AD.

Re:List of prices of medieval items (2009) on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @08:30AM (#11619941)
> You mention Louis XIV [...]

I mean, that's my point.

The fact that "things are less expensive now" is 100% due to the fact that tech has improved, so the poorest of the poor get now things that were inaccessbile to royalty at that time not because things have improved from a societal point of view. Society's dynamics in terms of balances of power have actually gotten much worse from what they used to be in medieval times - think about that.

Re:List of prices of medieval items (2009) on Tuesday May 03, 2016 @05:43AM (#11619129)
So, from the document:

Row house in York (well built) -> 5£

Also:

Laborer wage -> 2£/year

In 1300, 2.5 years of wages bought a good property in York. Interesting.

Also, using pjc50's linked calculator:

https://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/ukcompare/relativ...

5£ in 1300 are more or less equivalent to £3,534.00 in 2014's purchasing power.

I don't think I can rent a house in York for a year for that kind of money.

What's going on? It looks like that 1300's little folk was better off than we are. Technology has improved, but social distances are bigger than ever. Yes, we have heating and the internet and all that, but if you look back Louis XIV didn't have any of that... does that mean he was poor?

God I despise this world so much.