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Re:Saying Goodbye to GitHub – Ersei 'N Stuff on Monday April 03, 2023 @04:02AM (#35420092)
> Yeah on the one hand, isn't opening your source all about not really minding what happens to it after that?

No! That's a gross misrepresentation of what open sourcing is. It's the offer of a deal. You publish the source code and in return for looking at it and using it for sth, I have obligations. Like attribution and licensing requirements regarding derived works.

Re:Saying Goodbye to GitHub – Ersei 'N Stuff on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:59AM (#35420057)
Issue is that many large corporations use FLOSS internally with heavy extensions/modifications and never give back to the community. They don't have to, since all users are in-housr, and those tend to have access to the source code.

But that's ok. If upstream is somewhat active then it's just a pain to keep maintaining your in-house patches, compared to sending them upstream. So that's automatically a motivator. If upstream is not active, then it does not matter anyway.

Re:Saying Goodbye to GitHub – Ersei 'N Stuff on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:56AM (#35420019)
The problems are attribution and licensing. Not use.
Re:Saying Goodbye to GitHub – Ersei 'N Stuff on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:53AM (#35419988)
That's very generous of you. Don't get angry though if I go ahead and re-publish all your code with your name replaced by mine. That's exactly what you are allowing me to do with such a license.
Re:Saying Goodbye to GitHub – Ersei 'N Stuff on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:50AM (#35419960)
> I'm not aware of any Open Source license,or Free license for that matter,that has a give-back clause. Source code is available to -users- ,not prior-authors.

In essence, copyleft licenses are exactly that. They oblige the author of a derived work to publish the changes to all users under the same terms. The original authors tend to be users. So, a license which would grant this directly to the original authors would end up providing the same end result since the original authors would be both allowed to and reasonably expected to distribute the derived work to their users as well.

This aligns with the reason why some people publish their work under copyleft licenses: You get my work, for free, and the deal is that if you find and fix bugs then I get to benefit from those fixes by them flowing back to me. Obviously as long as you only use them privately you are not obliged to anything, the copyleft author gives you that option, but once you publish any of this, we all share the results.

That's the spirit here and trying to argue around that with technicalities is disingenuous. That's what Copilot does since it ignores this deal.

Still trying to understand if april 1st has anything to so with this.