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I think people on Twitter with a public profile, of all people, know and understand how public their tweets are. It doesn't change the fact that these kinds of advertisements are annoying though and that they're within their rights to complain about it.

Is it fair game? Maybe. Does that mean I should just accept it? Hell no.

I agree with you somewhat. I think my role as a developer/designer is to make sure that my forms work with pw managers. But I think encouraging users to use a manager should rest upon password managers. I can nudge them to use a secure password but the decision to write something like "please use a password manager" isn't usually my decision.

Also, let's admit it, unless you do something really crappy like remove copy-paste, forms don't exactly "not work" with managers. Most of the time, you don't have to do anything special and it would work. Some just take a bit more time because you have to cop-paste it and not autofill. But people who are already using pw managers don't just stop using it (or start memorizing their passwords) because one site can't be autofilled. They just copy paste it, at worst, they manually input it while looking at the password from their pw manager of choice.

My line about "supporting" it is a bit off. I used the wrong words. It goes to say that you should support it. Again, you have to do something really out of your way to completely block off password managers from your forms so really, I think the norm is that they support it. My thought goes more along the line of whether I should be the one to adjust when the form works on some pw manager but not on another or when the pw manager can handle other sites properly and not mine. "Working" and "handling" here means it can be autofilled (most of the time).

>Password managers can't deal with this, unsurprisingly.

I use a password manager too and often wonder about this. Does this responsibility fall on the website's designer/developer or the password manager?

In one hand, I'd like my password manager to work on every site too but on the other, being a web developer/designer, I don't want another thing to support. We already have browsers and browser versions, and browsers and browser versions in specific platforms to keep track of. Do I want another layer of something to keep track of?

(This is totally unrelated but another thing I apply this question to is a page's/websites ability to support reading mode. You have straightforward pages that you can read wholly in something like Firefox's Reader View or Instapeper/Pocket. Then there are those pages that rely too much on some javascript library (sliders, read more, etc.) to display properly that gets broken when seen through reading mode.)

Go check Notion.so. I've been on the same boat as you for a long time, tried all the open source atlernative I could find as well as the paid ones but kept coming back to plain-texting.

I read about notion a few days ago and it's been smooth so far. It's everything I've been thinking of for when "I'm gonna make my own note-taking app I swear". I'm looking at moving maybe a third of my notes to it and use it for a few weeks before I consider moving fully and paying, I guess. The desktop client is an electron app so that might be a turn off for some. But! There's a web clipper on their road map too so that's one point for them that always makes me look back at evernote.

I wanted to love Evernote, even swore by it for a time, but after a few months of extensive use, it becomes apparent that they don't care about customers outside of their business plans. Feature requests as old as 5 years get ignored while they keep pushing out features that would make Evernote more like a powerpoint alternative than a note-taking app.

Personally I want to think this is happening because better alternatives have been popping up. There's bear and omnifocus and, recently, notion.so that does a lot more than Evernote for a relatively cheaper price.

Also all of them have dark modes while Evernote doesn't.

I'm not doing anything more than a personal blog but I've shopped for platforms before and considered all the things one could think of when you're choosing one.

Ultimately though, I chose to run one on my own for the mere satisfaction of "owning" it. Maybe it's, uhhh, like how buying a house is thought to be a step up compared to renting an apartment? Something like that. There's also that feeling where I feel like I'm only half there if it's under a platform like Medium or Tumblr.

I admit the benefit of being on a network like those are bound to be helpful: if you're looking for them. Eitherway, I thought I could just cross-post things anyway if I ever wanted to.

It's just like my RPGs.