tillom

I get what your saying. I think you've set a really low bar for how you decided wether something is good or bad though.

For me something doesn't become ethical when an animal can just about tolerate bad conditions.

I cant give you a hard line for where I decide, but it's not that.

What about if an animal can have some positive experiences of a wild animal (some space) with fewer of the negatives (very painful death). We have given them a better alternative arguably.