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I don't get your point, you want affordable housing but without government intervention ??

The housing market is same everywhere in the world and generally suited towards nuclear family because they are ideal tenants (in terms of money and stability).

Homeless ness is a global problem that exists everywhere in the world. Its not a US only problem. You can dismiss my opinion as "oh this foreign guy , he knows shit about my country and he is touting opinion like he is some genius", but you are trying to overreaching in your "if only the housing market was perfect" solution.

And rural America is not a hell hole. You need to see real hell holes in life my friend. Good for you , you came out of poverty to get a stable job but please don't undermine others peoples experiences judging them from a narrow lens.

I am not an American citizen so I don't know about your experience in US, but I have seen similar problems in my own country (A developing country 3rd world) where building subsidized housing has only increased the problem. It created ghettoes with lack of ammenties and people clumped in together (Because the government will want to save money and I bet they will do a shody job at building these place).

This has caused a lot of people to start living in a very small area which has severely strained the resources of the city (water , sewage, garbage ).

This also created a feedback loop as since cities has more opportunities and now you can find housing on the cheap, more and more people start coming to the city even if they cannot afford living there.

Life is hard and it becomes harder when you are homeless and I am not undermining this. But your solution is a tried and tested solution which didn't work before and there is no indication that it will work in the future.

Gist : There is no point in concentrating all resources in the same place.

My worry with affordable housing in cities is that either it will turn into a corruption filed lottery system or they will turn into modern ghettoes. I think it's better to turn away homeless people away from cities and into places where cost of living is more reasonable and they can find some kind of job to bootstrap off (not by law but through incentives ). Yes, I agree most of the homeless services being in the city is a problem, which funnels people towards the city, where chances of getting affordable housing is becoming slim day by day.

This is not the failure of the society, this is a decision collectively made by the society. Clean water , food and place to sleep has to be paid by the same society and largely US society through its law makers have made the decision that they don't want to pay for these things (they still pay for these up-to some limit).

It's a decision. Every country is different, for better or for worse.

I sympathize with them but a simple answer to your question is , leaving the city is an option. Technically people have options to leave the city if the cost of living is high enough that they cannot afford rent. This will be the first argument against the "law is wrong".

I personally believe based on how US laws and public opinion works is that its better for them to leave the city and start somewhere the cost of living is not that high and they can get some kind of job (even if it is low paying).

I think he is trying to say is that this is not a cruel and unusual punishment. Its not unusual because putting people in jail is a usual affair in US. Now in terms of cruelty, the only cruel thing according to him about landing up in jail is your right to freedom is taken from you. Even though I agree this is a big punishment but taking your freedom was never considered a cruel punishment even if the crime committed was small.

Aside from freedom, he believes homeless are well off in prison in certain states rather than being on the streets.

Personally, my only perception of US prison system if through movies, so I cannot comment on it. But I have personally seen homeless people committing small crimes in developing countries to land in prison for a month or 2 in case the weather becomes extreme outside ( Rains , snowfall etc).

What if I tomorrow figure out a bug in Gmail/adsense and release it public-ally without giving google a chance to fix it.

My logic : Want security, stop recording peoples data. ( The most secure way to store data is not store data in the first place)

Would that be fair to google and the consumers of google.

And I would bet that I would be booked under some "Hacking" related law for doing that.

Exercise is only useful for people who are self conscious about their bodies. Exercising won't solve stage fright or anxiety due to stammering or have scar on your face. It won't solve anxiety in a person who is generally risk averse and requires a leap of faith to do something.

Many drink because just surviving is not enough to live a fulfilling life.

Wait What. Steam is a "competitor" to Mac App Store. Homebrew is a sort of competitor to app store. Heck any website which has more that 1 Mac OS "app" is a sort of an "app store ".

I see what you did there :)

There are a lot of immigrants in other fields are well.

Sales maybe not as the skill required for sales is very hard to measure (maybe thats why).

Marketing: High level marketing executives are transfered to US regularly. Also I maybe wrong but they can come under the artist visa if they are related to anything artistic and don't need H1B.

Teaching: High school salaries are pathetic and high schools wont even apply for an H1B. A lot of professors in good universities are immigrants. A lot researchers in Top universities are also immigrants.

Law : The problem is that you have to do your law degree here to get entry into law, but I have seen a lot of immigrants doing that.

Not in your list but Medicine: A lot of people are in medicine as well even though they have to take an exam (? or something) to see if they are trained according to US standards.

Tech has most number of immigrants because large tech companies are headquartered in US, thats it.

For example, a lot of doctors go to UK, because demand and NIH.

I know a lot of mechanical and chemical engineers being hired by Schlum (even though its technically not a US company).

Go to any US university and you will see a lot of immigrants in any technical fields training and have pretty good jobs lined up for them after graduation.