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Re:'We Will Win Because History Is on Our Side' (2018) on Friday June 11, 2021 @07:31AM (#27471879)
These are obviously intended to be caractectures of stereotypical Jewish people with stereotypical anti-semetic libels.

Even if you could argue for some reason the particular people were relevant and actually looked like this... christ why woudln't you stop yourself and say 'wait a minute this could be misconstrued as anti-semetic, maybe I should adjust it'?

How many examples of anti-semitism in the British progressive left do you need?

How many people sacked by their own party and described by their own party as anti-semetic before you think 'oh right maybe these people are anti-semetic'?

https://news.sky.com/story/12-shocking-claims-of-abuse-in-le...

'This is fine, nothing to see here', huh?

Re:'We Will Win Because History Is on Our Side' (2018) on Friday June 11, 2021 @07:10AM (#27471723)
> First, I'd suggest that we separate anti-zionism and anti-Israel sentiment from antisemitism

If you are thinking the progressives in the UK are making reasonable and legitimate criticism of the state of Israel and nothing more, then you're dangerously ignorant of what's going on at polite dinner-parties in middle-class London.

The reality is that the former leader of the left-wing party in the UK is liking on Facebook murals like this:

https://twitter.com/lucianaberger/status/977183210051338241

This is parody-tier anti-semitism.

Re:'We Will Win Because History Is on Our Side' (2018) on Friday June 11, 2021 @06:56AM (#27471642)
Even if I'm being super charitable, I'd suggest the reason that she remembered it and took it as fact is because it aligned with her anti-Semitic prejudices.
Re:'We Will Win Because History Is on Our Side' (2018) on Friday June 11, 2021 @06:42AM (#27471548)
She was forced to acknowledge it was completely unfounded. Her own party, which itself has massive issues with anti-semitism, described it plainly as an 'antisemitic conspiracy theory'. When anti-semites are saying you're unacceptably anti-semetic you might need to stop and think about what you're doing with your life.

Why do you think she just randomly made a completely unfounded accusation out of nowhere? Like what on earth did it have to do with anything? Why bring up the Israelis? Why's that the relevant part? Especially when it's not true?

Because she's anti-semetic and it was an insane way to pin anti-black racism at least partially on Jewish people.

It's also relevant because it was yet another mask-slip moment from the progressive in-crowd.

Re:'We Will Win Because History Is on Our Side' (2018) on Friday June 11, 2021 @06:36AM (#27471513)
Yes, perhaps claiming to be Anti-Israel used to be their cover... but they're not even really bothering with that anymore.

I really shudder to think about what is getting talked about amongst many mainstream progressive young people in the UK right now.

Re:'We Will Win Because History Is on Our Side' (2018) on Friday June 11, 2021 @06:24AM (#27471421)
Throwaway for obvious reasons.

I don't know how it is in the US at the moment, but in the UK we're in the bizarro world where the mainstream progressive party (Labour - like the Democrats in the US) seems to have a growing number of people, including young, media-savvy people you'd think would be extremely progressive, who are pretty openly anti-Semitic, while still considering themselves anti-racist.

It's crazy and frightening.

For example one popular progressive actress' response to George Floyd was to... claim it was a Jewish conspiracy... then retweeted by a senior person in the party who was almost leader. Almost in line to be PM of the UK! Bizarre.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manches...