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Thanks for clarifying. I should not have mentioned 9/11, I just always remember it because it was right around that time.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2002/mar/06/internatio...“ American authorities today revealed they have arrested and deported dozens of young Israelis they suspect were part of a giant spy ring.
Up to 120 Israelis have been arrested since early last year after claiming they were art students and trying to gain access to sensitive government buildings.”
Not sure if that citation helps your “wat” but Israel for decades has been a pretty aggressive partner at the world stage. Every country does it but Israel has a special touch.
But the Indian regulator was going after the short seller suggesting they used non public info. Turns out India is corrupt which we already knew as a fact and one of the chiefs owned the stock.
Clearly our views don’t align but I also don’t think anyone is ducking an issue. Racism is wrong but perhaps “wokism” makes it to be a lot worse of a problem than it really is. The article was not a history of racism or how to solve it. If anyone is moving the goal post it’s you. I will accept that we probably cannot come to terms but happy to discuss.
Was the title The Origins of Racism? You are manufacturing an issue.
Your interpretation is the exact problem. How many times do people need to say it? Racism is bad, what else there to say? Because he did not say it multiple times throughout the essay we are going to label him though and suggest and at the same time conclude that the thinks wokism is worse than racism. Sheesh that’s a great imagination.
I am not sure what your reply has to do with my comment. Be as loud as you yourself want to be. The issue with the left is the same that as the right in America. The handful of extra vocal folks set the tone. You are unable to have any real discussion as it’s too easy to quickly get labeled a racist or some other classification. If you don’t agree with a position, well you must be a nazi of some sort. That is/was the typical vocal left in CA.
The comparison of police being gestapo is just silly. In the general case police are underpaid for what they are tasked with. I am no fan of the police but it’s naive to think they are the gestapo. Severely under paid and undertrained to then have to take care of the same neighborhoods all the time. I also think your narrative of finger pointing does not really attack any of the issues. Instead of pointing fingers nobody wants to sit down and ask why certain communities have poorer outcomes than others. Poor police outcomes are a symptom of the problem, not the cause.
Is this not the best example of what a lot of people think is the problem with wokeness? You are either “woke” or a racist. It’s almost comical.
I think this is the problem. The left are all too willing to define things for everyone else. I would consider myself very center in American politics but would not agree with your definition. Woke to many is basically the large voices on the left, I see them in the same light as a far right talking head.
EDIT: Proof with all the immediate downvotes for just expressing an opinion. The left is just as sick as the right these days.
This is a politically charged discussion but I think it demonstrates some of the problem. Left arguments, just like the right, devolve into a theme of you are with us or a racist. There is no middle ground. I am no longer in the Bay Area but I still remember one of the depressing defining moments of this during the BLM protests. Shop owners would throw up signs that literally would say “We are minority owned, please don’t destroy our shop”. In my mind it’s the wrong way to think about it, does that mean we are giving the ok to destroy non-minority businesses? If you were to ask that question at that time, you would get labeled quite quickly as a racist.
The shame about everything these days is you cannot have a discussion anymore, maybe it never existed. I am not a republican but I also cannot stand the outspoken left shouting over everyone else in CA. Does that mean I am antiwoke?