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Re:Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum on Friday October 06, 2017 @04:53PM (#15420404)
This seems to be one of those "dark patterns" in design, where they try to persuade someone to perform a certain action.

At the very least, change it to "Save to Cloud" and "Save to Disk." But to be really clear, "Upload and Share" is definitely the way to go.

Thank you for taking the time to respond. The problem is that "factual information" can have a narrative that changes how events are interpreted [1].

An additional question: suppose you could limit the power of the alt-right, neo-nazies, and other racist agitators by limiting the flow of information.

Would also be against that?

1. http://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/22535/both-china-and-west-...

Re:China Forces Norway to Adhere to ‘One China’ Policy on Friday October 06, 2017 @01:14AM (#15414587)
Students in China are definitely taught about "figures are famous for the strength of their moral beliefs, the brutality they endured as a result, and their perseverance despite such adversity."

But considering that Liu Xiaobo preached about the inferiority of the Chinese race and how they needed to be colonized by the West for a couple hundred years, they would most likely compare him to an Uncle Tom/Chan type of person.

Re:The jailing of Hong Kong’s young pro-democracy leaders  on Thursday October 05, 2017 @06:37PM (#15413088)
The US can extradite foreign citizens for committing crimes against American interests. Whose to say that China can't do the same one day?

Maybe the US would never agree, but imagine you are vacationing in some country that has good relations with China.

Re:The jailing of Hong Kong’s young pro-democracy leaders  on Thursday October 05, 2017 @06:32PM (#15413068)
But how you report the factual information is important.

For example, suppose a ship with 1000 people was sinking.

- 800 lives saved by swift action and heroic first responders.

- Botched government response results in 200 dead.

Re:The jailing of Hong Kong’s young pro-democracy leaders  on Thursday October 05, 2017 @06:23PM (#15413020)
Assuming you are an American, you have people in your own country that don't have the same values as you.

Question 1: Since they have the same access as you to "truthful history" why are their values different?

Question 2: Do you believe you could change their perspectives by introducing them to additional historical information?

Re:The jailing of Hong Kong’s young pro-democracy leaders  on Thursday October 05, 2017 @06:16PM (#15412982)
Things got better eventually, but at the start of colonization it was basically like Jim Crow era for Hongkongers.

And even up till the 1980s, there was an undertone of white privilege, especially in Central (the business district).

Re:The jailing of Hong Kong’s young pro-democracy leaders  on Thursday October 05, 2017 @06:08PM (#15412941)
> There is a commonly held belief (which I haven't researched and thus don't know if true or not) that they didn't make nearly as much of a ruckus when they were under British colonial rule

During the early years of colonization there was a ton of protests and fighting, but they were brutally suppressed by the British.

After getting rid of early activists and over 70+ years later, the quality of life improved so there were less and less complaints.

> (If you add in a racial dimension, where the Hong Kong people are Asians willing to submit to "whites" while fighting back against other Asians, adds to that disdain).

I definitely agree there is a major dose of postcolonial mentality going on among the middle-class Hongkongers.

After the rich elite either moved to the West or became chummy with China, the middle class basically moved into the second tier of the "racial hierarchy (whites & hapas > rich Hongkongers > everyone else)"

In my opinion, this seems to be more of a class struggle. I see a lot of blue collar Hongkongers being friends with Mainland Chinese. And I see a lot of intermarriage among them as well. Same as when I visited Taiwan.

I think just like British colonization took 70+ years, after China has held onto Hong Kong long enough, things will change.