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Re:The Cutting Edge on Tuesday May 26, 2009 @01:23PM (#627035)
This guy writes about as well as J.K. Rowling.
Re:Why it's expensive to be poor on Thursday May 21, 2009 @06:28PM (#621218)
I don't think it's actually that general, because some of those things are better handled through groups of people rather than on an individual level.

This is a reasonable point. But bear in mind that DBM's original point is subtly different: he effectively said that because it was hard to deal with poverty on an individual level, it would be silly to let government intervene. Your point looks to be different: that non-state groups can do things as well/better than the state. So the generality of my inference is unaffected.

Re:Why it's expensive to be poor on Thursday May 21, 2009 @06:52AM (#620195)
If your original comment really does imply nothing beyond what it literally said, it is superfluous. All it offers is a correlation - which is insufficient to show whether poverty causes stupidity or the opposite - and a qualitative, unsubstantiated 'explanation' for why stupidity causes poverty and not the other way around.
Re:Why it's expensive to be poor on Thursday May 21, 2009 @06:25AM (#620172)
The notion however that your future path is set because of your past choices is part of the myth that the poor need to have destroyed through education. Tomorrow is about what you do tomorrow, not about what you did yesterday.

Only if you don't believe in causality.

Re:Why it's expensive to be poor on Thursday May 21, 2009 @06:21AM (#620167)
A second problem with your comment occurs to me.

We can safely assume that earl and other people in this thread arguing in favour of state support of the needy don't believe that private charity is adequate. (If they did, why would they argue for state intervention?) As such, your comment - which essentially just urges people to go out and commit acts of private charity - is hardly going to convince them otherwise.

Re:Why it's expensive to be poor on Thursday May 21, 2009 @05:40AM (#620145)
I'm not saying don't help people. I'm saying that lofty, praiseworthy feel-good rhetoric does not fix a damn thing. Instead everybody just smiles and nods and agrees to spend money. If you or I have a hell of a time fixing one poor person, with direct one-on-one involvement, it is completely ludicrous to expect an impersonal government to do it for us.

This seems like a worryingly general argument.

"If you or I have a hell of a time keeping out a gang of home invaders, with direct one-on-one involvement, it is completely ludicrous to expect an impersonal government to handle policing or national defense for us."

"If you or I have a hell of a time educating someone in a wide array of subjects, with direct one-on-one involvement, it is completely ludicrous to expect an impersonal government to handle schooling for us."

"If you or I have a hell of a time putting out a fire, with direct one-on-one involvement, it is completely ludicrous to expect an impersonal government to handle the fire service for us."

It seems like it could be used to argue for anarchy, effectively.

Re:Nate Silver: Does race affect votes? on Sunday April 26, 2009 @02:47PM (#580255)
It sounds as if you're no longer talking about race but ancestral nationality.
Re:Nate Silver: Does race affect votes? on Sunday April 26, 2009 @02:17PM (#580227)
"I agree that people shouldn't be treated differently in civil society based on their race, and who doesn't? But they should certainly be treated differently based on their race by their doctors."

Maybe they should be treated differently based on their specific disease-related alleles rather than a blunt instrument like race.

Re:Nate Silver: Does race affect votes? on Sunday April 26, 2009 @12:26PM (#580090)
It's racist but that doesn't mean it's not ok, like affirmative action.