sensiblecarrot7

I use React for work but I don't like React probably for the same reasons you don't.

But like... can we stop having these reasonabe takes that's like "I like this better but oh no I need to remind you that in the real world it's tough until it's get real traction but I like it anyway" kind of argument?

Just say what you like and what you don't like and be done with it.

Nobody gives a damn about what you like what you don't like.

But everyone will give a damn about your opinions that consistently make their lives better.

So stop these "reasonable take" stuff ffs.

> I ended up writing my own virtual DOM diffing code, a primary facet of React. I appreciate the ease of being able to circumvent this where it's not necessary and performance considerations dominate, though I admit i've not felt the need to do it anywhere yet.

So solid didn't solve one of the biggest problems you have but you like it. It's fine that you like it and the philosophy, but can you expand on "I ended up writing my own virtual DOM diffing code, a primary facet of React"? It's like saying I like Solid but I had to roll my own on what React does best and it's not very convincing... Easy to circumvent something makes no sense when you could have chosen something else that does it out of the box?

For all we care React could solve 70% of these problems 2 years later. Or maybe another project that's entirely React compatible and perfect migration is facilitated by AI will come up.

You literally said AI is more compatible with React as a counterpoint to using Solid? I think not using something because AI is good at is a good thing for humanity, but what are you talking about in terms of an argument for Solid.

Nobody cares.

I mean well.

I don't mean to offend you and I think Infumap is cool, but I think for the reasons above you need to be more mindful about what you say. Don't try to please everyone -- most people don't care and the people who are most loyal to you don't care. Nobody cares what Infumap is built with: they care about what Infumap does for them and WHY you built it. The what is irrelevant.

It's extremely frustrating these days when someone makes any claims about sizes/scale without providing actual numbers.

Your "largish" could be 10000 daily active users, which is my medium, and small for someone else.

Or maybe your "largish" is 1000000 for a site with mostly static, cachable parts, but the the same people were to build the same thing for a different audience that require a lot of interactivity and things that are different to say they wouldn't make the same claims.

What are you doing and what is the HN community doing.

Sure, React has its own problems and I choose not to use it outside of my job now. But if you're to convince someone else that something is worth switching to in terms of TECHNOLOGY, we need more than feels, vibes, and anecdotes.

It's not that I think you're right or wrong. However, if you are going to go out of your way to make a technical comment to make the world better place (I hope that's what you want to do), it requires more than a 2007 effort for people who care enough to make a difference now: otherwise you're just another person defending what they like most without any real data.

Don't forget that anyone who has any real experience as a software engineer knows that every day is about making trade-offs. Think deeply about what why I say this and what this means. If you don't know why, I hope you will find out or you will stop sprouting cult-like nonsense until you know why.