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Because I worked in the industry when we all used jquery and I see the difference in real billable hours to nowadays. The entire industry has measured and shifted. Do you think million- and billion dollar companys shifted towards public shared framework for funsies and parties?
No. I don't have to hire an engineer and teach him our company bespoke framework. I can hire a react developer and he's productive from week one.
Because I don't like people spewing vitrol on hn?
Not really.
Let me put it this way: Chrome, the Linux Kernel and Ubuntu combined are about 600-700 million lines of code. React core has 70k (150kb). You‘re using 0.0017% less library and framework code than the rest of us.
> For me working with the DOM is just a matter of assigning references to variables and making use of events (functions).
I loved this tech-coded business speak gibberish. "For me, managing business operations is just a matter of aligning strategic variables with organizational synergies and making use of scalable frameworks (processes)."
Your own comments.
> Are you suggesting that nobody is capable of writing software without a third party framework to tell them what to do?
No. Not at all. I'm suggesting they're unwise if they do it voluntarily (as in: not constrained by compliance etc.).
> to me this sounds like you have absolutely no idea how to program
I'm not surprised. Surely you roll your own STD as well? Boy, I really hope you never import a function from any library. Otherwise you would be just like us, the stupid idiots who can't write original code. While we're at it, hopefully you don't build upon an operating system as well, since any reasonable dev would be rolling their own. In all seriousness: You and me both build solutions on millions of lines of other people's code. I'm really wondering why you're acting so high and mighty because you're using a couple hundred lines less.
> no faith that anybody can program original solutions
Original solutions can be created just fine with library code.
It really isn't.
> If you can build your own hammer in less time than it takes to drive to the store and back
You can't and your analogy doesn't hold. I've been writing JS frameworks work a decade, as have millions of other developers. They don't "drive to the store", they install their tool of choice in one second. You either build and maintain yours for hours or you copy paste code (which equates to the same).
> people irrationally fear not using frameworks for things not measured.
It is very easy to measure the hours spent.
You wrote yourself that you roll your own and you insulted every developer who doesn't. The best tool for the job is the one that doesn't unecessarily strain your customers wallet for no extra gain.
> The React approach just isn’t fast.
React is pretty damn fast and it's not even the fastest framework out there.
This is exactly what you're doing. You're seeking the convention of building your own over the measure of valueable developer time
Then it is not complex enough to support the needs of large projects.
You admitted it yourself. You work with a small group of people in small projects, but you got huge opinions.
Building a bespoke framework, for nothing of value except because you want to, isn‘t investing in developers, it‘s creating a huge cost factor for no gain.
I would never hire you and people with that purist of a mindset.