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> I'm not seeing anything unfair here

Yeah, because feeding and housing drug dealers for the money taken forcibly from an average Joe who works 12h a day to provide to his family is totally fair.

> the society pays money to the government and in return have prisons. Society benefits from said prisons.

This is very naive way of looking at it.

> you should be aiming for the massive imbalance of wealth

Wow, it didn't take much time before someone had to drag this into discussion about penitentiary system.

>if you feel that letting people starve to death is a viable alternative (as you did in your earlier comment)

isn't it how this works in principle for folks that are not imprisoned? (And no, I don't think this a viable alternative, although - nice job what you did here - well played).

No, I'm not jealous - there is no need for personal remarks here. I'm just pointing out that it's not fair to the rest of the society. State will only be able to feed and house inmates, if it forcibly takes money from members of that society in the form of taxes. In order to give to someone, you have to take from someone else - it's that simple.
> That depends on the situation but is ultimately un-important

It actually is very important because this is exactly what distinguishes between labour slavery and ordinary paid work.

Economic rules is not something that one can decide whether it applies or not. It's like telling that mathematical axioms don't apply in prison - sure, you can make people believe that 2 + 2 = 5 but this is nothing more than just rejecting the reality.

Not really. The basic rule of economics is that you have to give something in order to get something. Inmates should be given a choice of working and making money so they can pay for their living or do nothing and starve to death - just like any other member of the society outside of prison.

What you're talking about is really a disproportion between amount of work they make (and value they produce) and the total amount of pay they receive for delivering that value.

> should be the total of their debt to society

I call it BS. Why should ordinary people work and pay for criminals?