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And what are the consequences of you getting cancelled? Really? You lose your job? People are fired everyday for silly things or no reason at all. But would you really want to continue working for a company/culture so incapable of enduring free thought? Perhaps companies need to suffer the consequences of losing talent to realize how intellectually bankrupt this process is.
I think that’s the point. “Cancel cultural” has always been around in some form or another when you challenge the cultural norms of some society or institution. The outrage over it now seems silly, particularly when it’s predominantly liberal people suffering from it. However, unlike other oppressed minorities of the past, the consequences are much less severe.
Please explain how I missed it. Or do we just disagree?
That’s actually my point. Overestimating the reach of cancel culture because you live in a liberal enclave.
I don’t know that we can attribute doxing or death threats to “cancel culture”. It’s certainly unjustified outrage. However, it does beg the question what exactly “being cancelled” means.
Have we started killing cancelled people? Who has been “cancelled” anyways? What punishments have they endured? A lost job at a very public position?
As someone wisely pointed out, the only person possibly going to be jailed in the #MeToo movement will be Harvey Weinstein. Many comedians and politicians have recovered. Look at Al Franken - polls show he’s electable in his state (by the group that ostracized him no less).
More importantly, if cancel culture had any teeth, this President would have been cancelled.
As oisdk points out, I would consider the very real threat of violence different than a celebrity getting their contract cancelled. But that’s an important point to also make. There’s a vast difference between a celebrity being cancelled and an average person. Cultivating popularity is a part of being a celebrity — so isn’t avoiding being cancelled a natural extension of that profession?
As for regular people getting cancelled, there only seems to be a handful - particularly those that might actually have committed a crime (thinking of the Central Park Karen).
I agree. I would like for someone to enumerate all the people who have been “cancelled” and then compare it to those that have been violently attacked.
He had a habit of always making the hero of his narrative the “brave startup founder”.
Think of a single Super Bowl ad. It’s not that much if you think about recurring TV spots.
Ok radical. I served 9 years in the military and no one I worked with was evil. Service members honestly believed they were doing good in the world and many felt some of the wars they were forced to participate in were unjust. Life is way more nuanced.
There’s not really a European identity like American’s have. You can live in Texas or Idaho, but consider yourself American. I’ve never met a Spaniard, German, or Englishmen consider themselves European first, and their nationality second.
First, the pageantry in most sports is not paid primarily by the military. It’s true that military will lend a color guard (those are the service members holding the flag), and will often sponsor sports, but that tends to be only at televised games. The tradition of honoring the flag and local service members is common throughout the country down to grade school events.
The overt acts of patriotism and congratulatory acknowledgements of soldiers has certainly been ratcheted up over the last 40 years, but I think you can contribute that to guilt over how services members were treated during and shortly after the Vietnam War. I would liken it to “asking forgiveness”, which in some respects is shallow given that those that are most patriotic are likely to vote for politicians that will send the military into more needless wars.
My point is, the nature of our patriotism is complex and nuanced. You can be disgusted by it, but understand that there is a history behind it.
You sir, have not seen most soldiers.
People need to stop seeing the military as the problem and rather the electorate that votes for politicians that lead us into wars. The military without a war is just a big gun club.
Your attitude (and people with similar) are the problem. If we isolated for four weeks, wore masks, and focused on contact tracing early on, we wouldn’t be in this predicament. But suddenly, we have a whole crop of arm chair doctors and statisticians who disregard basic instructions by medical experts and attempt to minimize (or dismiss outright) the threat of this disease.
Worse yet, we now have a sizable portion of our population that honestly believes that the economic damage is worse than losing 1% (or more) of our population. Given the unpredictability of how people cope with this virus, you are telling me I should risk my family because we are too stupid and/or lazy to do basic things like wear masks and observe a quarantine?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/27/us/navy-seals-edward-gall...I’m sorry but that’s not how the Gallagher case went down. To specifically reinforce the point:
“ It is an unspoken rule among their teams that SEALs should not report other SEALs for misconduct. An internal investigation could close off choice assignments or end careers for the accusers as well as the accused. And anyone who reported concerns outside the tight-knit SEAL community risked being branded a traitor.”
“ The platoon members told investigators that they tried repeatedly to report what they saw, but that the chain of command above them was friendly toward Chief Gallagher and took no action. Finally, in April 2018, they went outside the SEALs to the Naval Criminal Investigative Service. Chief Gallagher was arrested a few months later.”
That’s a fascinating idea, but in practice I think we Americans have completely messed it up. Some U.S. states like Georgia centralize investigative responsibilities (often when municipalities are too small to budget these services). This strategy hasn’t lead to great results. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation is notorious for falsely indicting and imprisoning minorities. I suspect the same is probably true in other states.
We do still have the FBI and federal Dept of Justice that is supposed to provide some semblance of oversight. However, as we have seen over the last 4 years, they are equally susceptible to political influence as local law enforcement agencies.
IMHO this article is nonsense. Even the Gallagher example contradicts the premise. The SEALs that reported him basically risked their careers in doing so.
The military may have laws/rules to report misconduct, but structurally, units are incentivized to hide misconduct (e.g. “handle internally”) because they don’t want the embarrassment. More importantly, failures by subordinates are often seen as leadership problems (you can make an argument that in many cases this is true) which mean officers and SNCOs are likely to sweep them under the rug if they can.
I saw many, many cases of this in the USMC. DUIs turned into “wet and reckless” because it involved a SNCO (an NCO or lower would have lost rank). NCOs (rightfully) pressing charges against subordinates for misconduct, only to be pressured by company/battalion leadership to accept “alternative punishment” (which often amounted to nothing). A let’s not even talk about all the case where there was sexual or physical abuse that went unreported despite everyone knowing it was happening.
The only time the military is motivated to act on misconduct is when it can’t hide it.
Communication and cultural differences become significant drags on velocity. Time zone differences exacerbate resolving issues. More importantly, it’s tough communicating technical issues in your non-native language.
It’s also hard to build an engineering culture when you don’t engage with your coworkers often. You have to build credibility so you can work through difficult issues - that’s hard to do when your primary medium of communication is Slack.
I totally get why you are doing this, but I would think DB management and migrations would be really troublesome. Do you have a migration framework to manage migrations across all catalogs?
Hi Kyle! I’ve really enjoyed your work over the years. I was wondering, with all of your testing and experimentation, is there any system that had really impressed you?
We don’t use auto commits with Kafka so it’s not a problem for us. Of course, this does reduce our publishing throughput - though that’s not a problem for us at our current scale.
Either way, I’m intrigued by the outbox pattern. As long as it is transparent to developers, it does seem like an ideal CDC mechanism.
This is a neat pattern, but it honestly just seems like you’re trading where you want the complexity. The outbox pattern would force devs to not use SQL directly for mutations - in so much as they can’t directly modify records like they normally would. I can see this being ok if you had someone with strong DBA skills implementing the abstraction.
We do this now and make publishing to Kafka a requirement of transaction success, rolling back the DB transaction if publishing fails. The dual write is much more straightforward in my opinion and the pattern works as long as the primary database supports transactions or some other form of consistency guarantee.
I still can’t get behind using CDC via a DB watching tool unless I have little control of the system writing to the DB. There is so much context lost interpreting the change at the DB (who was the user that made this change, etc.) — unless you are sending this data to the DB (then yikes your DB schema is much more complex).