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Looking at the OCaml code, I can guarantee you the whole thing is vibe coded.

>You literally wrote “yeah okay it’s an unfounded accusation”.

Do you start reading sentences from the middle?

I didn't say em-dashes were never seen before 2020. Re-read the sentence. It's a list - "em-dashes" and "things that you simply never saw before 2020" are two items in that list. But even assuming I meant em-dashes, it's interesting to compare how frequent they were a few years ago versus now. Take the most upvoted HN submission (8 years ago):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16582136

There is on instance, an obvious copy-paste. Now go to any from the current top list. I count 10+ per submission, even on submissions with much lower post counts that the Stephen Hawking one.

But I'm not going around policing em-dashes or smart quotes and calling people out for using them. It's more like when someone gets a bingo in ChatGPT phrasing and style idiosyncrasies then it becomes suspicious and I'd hate to think I'm here talking to bots (I've already left many subreddits because for AI slop).

I've seen highly rated posts on HN that might as well have started with "You're absolutely right!"

>I think it would suit you to do the same, now that you’ve acknowledged it.

I'm struggling to see why you think I acknowledged that my accusation was unfounded when I explained exactly why I think it's valid. It's clearly AI and I would bet my life on that post having been at least edited by ChatGPT.

>What did you hope to achieve with the accusation?

Plenty of online spaces are now full of bots posting and replying to other bots with the occasional human engagement. Some subreddits I used to post on are practically useless now with all the AI spam. Dead internet theory etc. If I wanted to talk to a bot I would use AI directly without pretending I'm discussing something with humans.

It contains multiple instances of classic ChatGPT phrasing, em-dashes, smart quotes, things that you simply never saw before 2020, etc. One of these in isolation and yeah okay it's an unfounded accusation, but I don't understand how you're all not seeing how many posts on HN now are AI.

I thought there was something very odd about the way this was written.

>Don’t get me wrong—having “the name” on my resume now meant I could get at least one chance at an interview about anywhere

Never mind, it's been written or at least edited by ChatGPT.

This was my exact experience - loved it as a backend developer wanting to build simple frontends with minimal JavaScript (and I still recommend it for many use cases) but when I then tried HTMX to build a more complex application I found that the complexity that would normally be handled by a JavaScript framework ultimately grew and shifted to the HTML and, surprisingly, the backend as well.

For example, error handling in complex forms. When you have React handling errors you simply return a 400 JSON response with fields and reasons, or some other error message, and React decides what to do depending on the context, which it knows. When this responsibility is moved to the backend you now need to track the request location, state etc. and find the right fragment, which very quickly turned the code into a mess.

I think the choice of backend is also important. I suspect that Java (Spring Boot) made using HTMX much less pleasant than it would have been with something else, especially when it comes to templates and routing. Using Java for HTML templates (Thymeleaf or any of the other popular libraries) is something I will never do again.

Edit:

The analogy with jQuery is interesting. I feel the same way about HTMX now as I did about jQuery ten years ago. I used to plug jQuery into every project even if it was just to select elements or whatever, but whenever I used jQuery entirely over the frameworks that were popular at the time (Ember, Angular) I ended up with way messier code.