primrose
I suppose you could argue the government creating the money allowed the market but alternatives currencies would be created like gold or now crypto.
Eliminate corporations from being legal entities. They shield employees from their illegal actions and provide a shield against lawsuits. Then we could avoid the extra litigation necessary for Peircing the corporate veil.
Again, I don't know who you're referring to by "everyone else."
"Where is yours for that $90k BS."
Enjoy!
Federal Breakdown 2019 in Billions:
$59: EITC Refundable Tax Credits - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/020-0906
$29: Child Tax Credit - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/020-0922
$64: SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Programs) - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/012-3505
$51: Housing Assistance - https://www.hud.gov/sites/dfiles/CFO/documents/3%20-%20FY19C...
$57: SSI (Disabled, blind or senior citizens) - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/028-0406
$31: Pell Grants - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/091-0200
$16: Temporary Assistance for Needy Families - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/075-1552
$23: Child Nutrition - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/012-3539
$12: Head Start - https://www.acf.hhs.gov/about/budget
$5: Job Training - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/016-0174 , https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/016-0181
$5: WIC (Women, Infants, and Children) - https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/wi...
$5: Child Care - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/075-1550 , https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/075-1534 ,
$4: LIHEAP (Utility bill help) - https://liheapch.acf.hhs.gov/Funding/funding.htm
$1: Lifeline (phone payment help) - https://www.usac.org/wp-content/uploads/about/documents/annu... Page 8
$409: Medicade - https://www.usaspending.gov/federal_account/075-0512
Total: $771 billion
People below the poverty line in 2019: 33.9 million - https://www.statista.com/statistics/233138/number-of-people-...
$771 billion / 33.9 million below poverty citizens = $22,743
$22,743 * Family of 4 = $90,972
THIS IS JUST FEDERAL SPENDING AND DOES NOT INCLUDE STATE AND LOCAL SPENDING!
When the problems in Detroit and LA subside maybe I would be with you on this point.
"Prove that our schools are actually carrying out indoctrination."
The pledge of allegiance. https://www.forcedschool.com/post/69947261758/the-prussian-m...
"modeled on the public school formula" and "The system may be quite stable over time"
Like Detroit or LA?
"actual effect on competition."
Better quality goods and services have been the observed effect of markets.
Like corrupt administrations that siphon funds needed to fix buildings teaming with cockroaches.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2016...
We can postulate how a top down approach might work but these students will still be suffering while we sort and continually monitor (we won't) the system.
Involving market forces and allowing parents to have say in where their children will be educated puts the power in the most effective hands for change.
Market forces improve conditions. Motivations are realigned to the incentive of the parent's satisfaction with their kid's education. Service improves when you have competition.
"Second, let's see what happens if we fund private and public schools equivalently."
Detroit get's $14k per student. Cost of living in Detroit is low and barely anyone who graduates is literate.
I don't think funding's the problem.
Society is disadvantaged when intelligent students aren't allowed to achieve their fullest potential. We need programs that allow students to independently work at their own pace. We'd have a ton more 15-16 year old's attending college.
Who is "everyone else?"
"US taxpayers would rather throw money at prisons and police instead of education and social workers."
Agreed. End the war on drugs and personal freedom. End the wars, bring every troop home, from everywhere. Cut the military budget.
"I mean outreach to families and help getting them what they need."
In 2019, we spend $90,960 per family of 4 on welfare. The money's there. Unaccountable bureaucracies waste money. This will never change.
There's so much room for improvement.
Everything is a process of improvement overtime. The reality is, we don't have all the answers ever. What matter's is how much things are improving overtime. I don't see that with public schools.
I could easily ask you a ton of questions on how to fix Detroit or LA schools.
Allowing competition fixes a lot of problems.
I know. Capitalism is great!
"Of course the Prussian cabal has been secretly controlling our schools for as long as Prussia has been a country, but effectively?"
Prussia set the model. Our country uses it for our country's indoctrination. Not a hard concept.
"And I don't see voucher schools in my state offering radically different education, but rather, just doing the same thing with better discipline and fewer special needs kids."
Why?
"Most children in Denmark attend public schools."
But the funds are tied to the children, not the school district. Doing so would create more competition in existing public schools.
The productive capacity this money enabled. Except instead of the gov doing it 1000 miles away, they had skin in the game, took risks and monitored the situation to ensure success.
The only issue will be when Japan has an ungodly amount of old people with no money to take care of them because the gov spent it all. And no population to tax because they stopped having children.
And no goods or services because not enough people are providing them.
For instance Detroit Public Schools spend $14,259 per student per year.
There is more than enough money to provide services.
"What if a large region has exactly one company operating schools?"
Like today with government run schools?
"What if that company goes out of business during the school year?"
Fair point. Are you assuming there won't be competition? Stager voucher payments through out the school year.
"Why aren't other countries lining up to try voucher schools?"
Indoctrination. Very effective way of controlling thought. I would recommend reading the origins of US schooling, from Prussia. https://www.forcedschool.com/post/69947261758/the-prussian-m...
"Let's see some success stories."
Denmark. Education dollars are tied to the student not the school district. Their kids are pretty smart.
"What are the choice criteria that parents are supposed to sort out when trying to get their kid into an available seat?"
More choice then what they currently have. Markets, devoid of gov incentives (unlike health care and education), do a good job with oversupply.
Or hate the people your government tells you to hate.
Prussian's realized when most conscripts were faced with war, they would pee their pants and run away.
"The Prussian mind, which carried the day, held a clear idea of what centralized schooling should deliver: 1) Obedient soldiers to the army; 2) Obedient workers for mines, factories, and farms; 3) Well-subordinated civil servants, trained in their function; 4) Well-subordinated clerks for industry; 5) Citizens who thought alike on most issues; 6) National uniformity in thought, word, and deed."
This horrifies me. More so that we do it here in the United States.
https://www.forcedschool.com/post/69947261758/the-prussian-m...
Their should be no government run schools. Give parents a voucher and let them decide.