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You followed up with more accusations without evidence, so I’ll stop engaging after this.

But to your point about where they were, that would be a public bathroom amongst others: https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/09/politics/heres-where-donald-t...

So yeah. I do think he completely and openly abused our country and everything it stands for, by letting anyone into those rooms, exactly as you implied. We know for a fact that ONE Chinese spy has been caught. I linked it already. So for all the other spies that weren’t caught - including Israeli, German, Russian, etc - they know exactly what Trump had. It’s a shame we don’t.

My assumption is that he wasn’t prosecuted for treason because the documents weren’t actually valuable. Classified doesn’t mean important, just that we obey laws about it.

“this shit” was not a referent to mishandling classified material.

It was a referent to Trump having thousands of documents, including nuclear secrets and other SCIF material.

Please provide evidence of any of these other people doing it with nuclear secrets.

Please provide evidence of these other people risking national security by giving access to their sock drawers or email servers. Trump lets anyone into Mar A Lago. Anyone including known Chinese spies: https://www.npr.org/2019/09/11/759906611/chinese-woman-who-b...

Here’s a convenient wikipedia article summarizing sources and showing you pictures of what Trump did: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI_search_of_Mar-a-Lago

You honestly think these behaviors are equivalent or comparable severity?

> He also oversaw numerous prosecutions of his political opponent, solely designed to stop him running.

Odd conclusion. Why would you think solely? Are you familiar with the evidence in the documents case?

In the documents case, Trump clearly violated the law, based on evidence now in the public record. National security documents he was not entitled to were handled illegally, in ways that others have been prosecuted and convicted for. In really, really bad and scary ways, like nuclear-level secrets in an unlocked closet ways. With pictures. And videos. In the place he lets random foreign enemy political figures AND THEIR SECURITY STAFF run around.

The predominant reason someone like Biden or Bush doesn’t get prosecuted is because they don’t do this shit. Second, because of norms, they transparently cooperate when they make mistakes. Even still, Trump was handled with kid gloves. The documents prosecution took years and was ultimately a massive waste of time.

So if the sole reason was to disadvantage Trump, wasn’t it real dumb? Wouldn’t a more reasonable motivation be that the hundreds of elite law enforcement agents were doing their jobs / protect the country from a clear and present national security threat?

> Yep, but as opposed to a startup those "mistakes" will be deadly.

Well, these mistakes are also deadly if it’s a move fast and break things startup in medtech. And these mistakes are deadly in healthcare.

I am calling this out because I see this complete myopia of abstracting people’s lives as OK to ever lose on purpose.

Statements like “no one thinks that!!!” “Most people are XYZ!!!” are thrown around because computer scientists start being computer scientists - we try to solve problems the way we do at work. Big O notation is not an acceptable way to manage other people’s lives.

In computer science, 100,000 people in the global population converge to zero. If you are counting DAU… OK.

If you are estimating the number of people you might accidentally kill… not OK.

If you are trying to reduce corruption and you don’t actually know if you will kill people or not, and you do it anyway… I don’t see how anyone can consider that ethical.