nklop

Yeah I've got a python program that implements all of excel in around 30 lines of code. It's super effective!

So I'm guessing we just need to wait for the court cases to resolve the various issues with this. Won't that be fun? But is that really likely?

My sense is that this is either:

a storm in a teacup;

a blackhole that swallows everything around it;

a massive copyright mess that piles up without anyone noticing then explodes all over everything;

or something else entirely.

The next few years will be interesting then. I'm wondering what happens if/when a significant chunk of GPL code gets included into a commercial product. That will get lively.

Popcorn with butter please.

I didn't write or imply that WFH provided that protection.

The whole "don't trust employees to do the work" thing is an interesting statement. It reveals a lot about how the business measures and keeps track of its own performance.

Just how much was being done in the office pre-pandemic? Those businesses likely didn't actually know. well they sure looked busy, right?

The abuse aspect is also interesting. Friend of mine got verbally abused. On zoom video with audio. While it was recording. So that was an experience when HR got involved.

Overworking is another aspect. That is still being explored. Plenty of scope for that to blow up as well.

I think the future for a lot of businesses will still be in-office. Having the team in one room has its own benefits. Plenty of others will be remote since that also has benefits. A lot more will be somewhere in-between. I think that will be more common. 100% remote won't suit a lot of businesses.

But 30% of the time? Or 20%? For plenty of people this won't seem weird. Spending two days per week working from home won't be strange.

I work remote now. While I still see a need for in-person catch-ups this doesn't include any need for the classic daily commute. That, for me and many others, at least, is now dead.

Why would you ask that? I didn't imply that. No guarantees with WFH either.

Inserted edit: I notice you didn't comment on bullying. That's awkward over a zoom. At least one boss of someone I know has found out the hard way. Especially on playback.

The mind set changes when you start self organising because you're alone in a room. It's a different dynamic.

The gig economy has a lot of twists and turns. Less old guarantees but some interesting new ones.

So you've not seen layoffs? I have. It was a mad scurry of people running around looking busy and indispensible.

Bullying? I've had it done to me and another time had to sit in with HR on someone else's behalf.

People being performance managed just because? I saw a bunch of 40 somethings get targeted and zeroed out. It got ugly.

30x1 is not the same as 1x30 or 6x5 or 15x2 or 10x3. They all look like the same equation but the experiences can be vastly different.

Friends are friends and workmates are workmates. A lot of people confuse these groups and think they are somehow the same.

Workmates might become friends but more likely they are work colleagues that vanish after a contract ends, especially if they didn't mesh with your network.

In my circles we as a group often get work at a company. At least do referrals etc. We also leave together to find new opportunities when the place goes feral. This is partly why we think office work is less than good a lot of times.

I'd argue most offices devolve into hellholes as management forget about people and treat them as things.

Not me. My career networks are online. Offices are full of people trying to give each other eating disorders through passive aggression, politics and generally pointless power games.

That's the perception we have in our groups. We meet up weekly face to face to share air when possible.

Hey thats me. I quit my office job to go remote. Don't regret it at all

Office work is weird and too political. It was like game of thrones every day. The boring bits with pointless drama to determine who sits on an uncomfortable chair.

Key question I have now when I have a face to face meeting: why exactly am I sharing oxygen in close proximity with this person? Especially after this silly commute just to do so.

BTW I now make more money than my boss's boss. Why would I want to go back? There's that pragmatism as well.