News for hackers. Stuff that matters.

naturedaily

Re:The Balenciaga Controversy on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @03:02PM (#33792487)
I agree that moral panics are undesirable. But by saying "these" you imply that this is all this is: a moral panic. You would have to be able to see this as more than just panic, or you will deem anyone in this debate under the spell of moral panic. You then cannot accept good faith on counterarguments. This is not pragmatic.

Yes, polarization is used to pit right against left. We could all join hands on this: It is repugnant to use vulnerable children for marketing that reeks of pedophilia. Do not focus on those screaming global cabal of satanist abusers, and certainly do not make it representative of the position of your political opposition.

How far are you willing to go to concede on this topic? Or should we let such politicized events destabilize us without a fight (through debate).

Re:The Balenciaga Controversy on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @02:32PM (#33792094)
The photoshoot included a roll of police tape with the sic:

Baalencia.

With Baal they were referring to Lord Moloch, a pagan God who demanded child sacrifice by casting these in the fires of a horned bull statue.

So the fashion and modeling industry. They depict the demon. Youth and Beauty sacrificed at the altar of Lord Moloch. Maybe the photos are meant as a warning or a way to offset karmic debt.

> I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked,

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/49303/howl

Re:The Balenciaga Controversy on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @01:52PM (#33791564)
This is not what is claimed, at least, not by the reasonable people opposed to such marketing.

The photos would constitute gore. Just like the Balencia photos constitute pedophilia flirting with ritual abuse.

The photographer is just pushing aside blame. They knew damn well what they were depicting when they checked the light values on the dog bowls and discarded adult clothing placed on the floor of a child's room.

The photographer still says the pushback in general is way overblown, and that people repulsed by these images are overreacting. They know what they did, they just donnot see a problem with it. That is how normal such shoots are these days at the higher levels of the fashion and modeling industry.

What would you expect of someone who takes photos of starving children in a bright Beneton shirt?

Re:The Balenciaga Controversy on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @01:12PM (#33791040)
More like: Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

To you, these photos are not pedophilic. To me, an actual pedophile, these photos are. To each their own path. It is, afterall, a satanic truth that some things can have two opposing properties at the same time.

Re:The Balenciaga Controversy on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @12:25PM (#33790422)
I fancy myself a bit of a pedophile and a satanist. Most of my education on these topics stems from the 80s. In the 70s, naked children in photography was not even occulted.

Pedophilia is a sexual attraction to children. These photoshoots normalize and facilitate this attraction. If I was found with these photos in my possession, such evidence would get me in big trouble.

Yes, these blatant photoshoots are capitalized on by the hard right, and mostly ignored by the hard left. You would think that children are some of the most vulnerable people in society, and that these need protection from 1% sexualized capitalism, something the far left usually fights for, but these seem pre-occupied with battling global fascism right now.

Transsexuality is a big satanist topic. Male homosexuality has a big pedosexuality problem, but this is occulted and taboo to talk about.

You ask if it is tasteless, but then quote the Romans on debating taste, so assume it has a taste. This is the taste of pedophilia and Baal worship. This taste certainly provokes those with more common sensabilities.

It is pedophilic in nature. These people involved did their homework. Not like pop clips for children from about a decade ago, where they just slapped together some depictions of Isis to raps of Jeffrey Dahmer eating out hearts.