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I guess non-developers won't be able to participate in the discussions without a $21/month license if I'm on the Enterprise plan.

So for a non-developer that wishes to collaborate, they now need a GitHub license? That's a deal-breaker right there for any org that is composed of more than developers.

Good to finally hear from the inside what everyone on the outside sees.

It's a shame they are killing off the server products to push everyone into the cloud.

Jira Cloud is slow and expensive, and requires Atlassian Access subscription if you need SSO/2FA.

Jira Data Center doesn't get any new features anymore besides administrative back-end things, and is also very expensive.

Things look bleak in the Atlassian ecosystem.

you are self-hosted, which is different from cloud.

Something is seriously hosed with your configuration if it takes up to 30 seconds to load an issue, especially on your specs which can probably support 5000+ users. Multiple servers won't fix your problem...probably should have support eyeball your configuration.

Except there's no sales people there to wine & dine you...it's actually the complete opposite.

I feel this is how Jira took off initially in orgs when they had a really affordable unlimited user tier. When hooked into LDAP/AD, suddenly every employee in the company was a user.

SaaS is a disaster without controls. They make it damn hard to automatically disable users who are no longer active. Then you have users picking competing duplicative tools, and now users can't work together without having duplicate accounts in each tool. Once they get you in, you've got no leverage--they'll just keep increasing prices because you're locked in. Companies are pushing you from perpetual license to cloud not for your benefit.