mrwrong

and the corollary is of course that saying something doesn't make it true

I'm not sure many people will believe you saying that

> "Sovereign head of state" tortured, "disappeared", and murdered thousands, and rigged elections.

can't wait for someone to kidnap trump as well

because that's not their job?

everybody is emotionally motivated, you included

nobody's trying to force you to socialize, it's just advice. take it or leave it

sure but my point is people could agree they were faster at least. that is decidedly not true for LLMs. maybe due to alignable vs non-alignable differences

sounds like snake oil to me :)

I wonder why the volume of spam has come up 100x. seems like maybe Ads are the only way to make Sense of it

and those stories were in the short run correct, since Amazon and Uber succeeded by massively undercutting existing businesses. reel customers in with charity, then turn the screws. what business is ChatGPT undercutting?

yes, it is trivially true that each new person who recommends LLMs is a new person coming into the fold

who would I be trying to trick if it was? you didn't answer the question anyways. I'm not wondering whether cars were seen as strictly better than horses in all situations. I'm wondering if people disagreed so vehemently about whether cars were faster road transportation than horses

yeah I agree about the negative externalities but I'm curious about the perceived benefits. did anybody argue that cars were actually slower than horse and carriage? (were they at first?)

have you tried using $NEWEST_MODEL ?

get ready to tick those numbers over to 2026!

> The variance is great

this strikes me as a very important thing to reflect on. when the automobile was invented, was the apparent benefit so incredibly variable?

agreed. we should instead be sneering at the AI critics because "you're holding it wrong"

um, no it's not. you have fallen into the classic web forum trap of analyzing a heterogenous mix of people with inconsistent views as one entity that should have consistent views

you are saying X, but a completely different group of people didn't say Y that other time! I got you!!!!

do you get scared when you hear other ghost stories too?

> But the claim for LLMs are next token predictors is the SAME mischaracterization. LLMs are clearly more than next token predictors. Don’t get me wrong LLMs aren’t human… but they are clearly more than just a next token predictor.

it's simply not. I find this argument by analogy very lazy. you need to do the work to show what that "and more" is and how it's the same for humans and LLMs. you can't just hand wave that it feels the same and leave it at that

> Wouldn't the best way to spend a life be to go all in on one thing?

no

> a technical sense you are a stochastic parrot.

I am not. I'm sorry you feel this way about yourself. you are more than a next token predictor

> It’s surreal to read claims from people who insist we’re just deluding ourselves, despite seeing the results

just imagine how the skeptics feel :p

X has a pasta dish is an easily verifiable factual claim. the pasta dish at X tastes good and is worth the money is a subjective claim, unverifiable without agreeing on a metric for taste and taking measurements. they are two very different kinds of disagreements

just because auteur theory is popular doesn't mean it's correct

but then we don't have a universe simulating itself, but simulating a low-fi imitation

not unsolved at all. you just need to practice actually using the language instead of playing a video game

you are definitely going to start involving the justice system if teachers and doctors start physically abusing people, illegally detaining them and killing them!

> Can we have a grown up discussion

starting your reply with an insult, great way to spark "grown up discussion"