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Re:Hundreds shot and beaten as Chile takes to the streets on Sunday October 27, 2019 @04:34PM (#21372210)
Yes, probably Panama's poorest regions are poorer than Chile's. However, is important to take into account that Panama's GDP is not even half of Chile's and Gini Index of Panama and Chile is almost the same [1].

Anyways, yes, that's something that voters should resolve. Sadly, there's a big discontent towards the political class in Chile (against both left and right-wing) and last elections had low participation (around 50%).

[1] http://documentos.bancomundial.org/curated/es/24225147670682...

Re:Hundreds shot and beaten as Chile takes to the streets on Sunday October 27, 2019 @03:56PM (#21371989)
About 33% of that GDP is controlled by the richest 1% according to The World Bank [1].

Yes, Chile's HDI is quite high for a Latin American country. The problem is, in the same city (Santiago) you've got communes with HDIs above Norway's (Vitacura, Las Condes, and Providencia got HDIs above 0.953) and then there are communes less than an hour away that got an HDI lower than Panama's (San Ramón HDI is 0.786) [2][3][4].

By OECD's data, Chile is the third country with the highest income inequality amongst OECD members [5].

[1] http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/496131468228282235...

[2] Calculated with INE's data (2017) https://imgur.com/GKMcGw9

[3] http://reportescomunales.bcn.cl/2012/index.php/Categor%C3%AD...

[4] http://www.desarrollosocialyfamilia.gob.cl/informacion-socia...

[5] https://data.oecd.org/inequality/income-inequality.htm

Re:Hundreds shot and beaten as Chile takes to the streets on Sunday October 27, 2019 @03:14PM (#21371763)
As someone living in a middle/lower class neighbourhood, I would say that there's been some chaos. I myself saw two train stations being burned and a supermarket being looted in front of me. However, as someone who's been to these peaceful protests since October 18, I think that the treatment the government and police have given to these protests is one of the big catalysts for the chaos and violence. Peaceful payment evasion protests started on October 14 and the government just decided to treat protestors as criminals, sending police's special forces units to train stations, where violent encounters between officers and protestors (at this point most protestors were 13-17 years old as the movement started with secondary students) which would infuriate people and on Thursday of that same week protestors started to destroy charging devices and opened gates to closed stations. From that point violence only would escalate.

I think that both police and military forces have shown a disproportionately violent response.

Last INDH (National Institute of Human Rights) report [1] says there have been 3193 detainees, 1092 injured in hospitals, and 88 lawsuits, of which 17 are for sexual harassment (including rape).

It might sound "reasonable" for some to declare emergency state and send military forces to the streets, but it's the first time that something like this happened since the dictatorship. Police officers are throwing teargas to kids and the elderly in the protests. There's also a big number of injuries that will never get to be informed.

About the reasons, I would say inequality. The increase in train fares is nothing more than a detonator. There's no organization leading the movement, so the demands are scattered (pensions, health, social contract, neoliberalism, concessioned highways, etc).

[1] https://twitter.com/inddhh/status/1188525375577645057

Re:How the West Got China Wrong on Friday March 02, 2018 @08:10AM (#16501091)
> Allende not democratically elected

He wasn't, still, he got a 64,1% approval rate in 1972, which is much more than the actual president (Michelle Bachelet) on her whole second government.

> Main players were always Chilean

Not true, there is evidence that proves US intervention in both elections and government.