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Years, no? Meaning the sky is falling rhetoric was wrong for a long time. He will get lucky eventually.

Good one.

Always? What I’ve seen is sometimes the buy out is no better than the current severance package. Might as well ride it out. The severance could in theory get worse over time but that doesn’t seem like a worthwhile reason to throw away your job. You’re also throwing away unemployment.

Random Wikipedia articles make it to the front page all the time. What’s so weird?

Obviously, many people have viewed AI’s contribution to programming as just producing unreliable garbage.

Yes, that’s an incomplete and tenuous belief, but that’s where the irony is. If you’re omniscient you don’t get to experience irony.

“How many Ns in Riemann?”

> I'm surprised at this reaction to a prototype game implementing an idea I had

Seeing a gwern comment get downvoted is a first for me. An odd sight.

I feel like I might have a unique perspective here. I absolutely hate slop, but I've also experimented a lot this year with AI game dev. I was shocked at the negativity (being told snidely to "learn to code" despite having made games for decades).

This seems like a clash of an extremely AI pilled person coming into contact with the often irrational and overwhelming backlash against AI, which is common even on HN these days.

Slop is only an issue is when it's implied to be handwritten. Because then someone is asking me to waste my time reading something they didn't spend time writing. That's not the case here since you've called out the AI contribution, but I bet a lot of people are skimming over it.

The real problem I see here is that Claude often doesn't have a sense of what's interesting. In the 30,000 word write up, I don't see anything particularly new and interesting about the prototype.

I see: using turns as a score, Hamiltonian paths, and a reference to a "wide rake" and "no u-turns" which either I don't understand or doesn't show up until late into the game. If there is something interesting in there, Claude hasn't convinced me of it!

Where the audience starts getting rightly annoyed is an irreverence to the existing prior art and an overestimation of how unique/interesting this prototype is (presumably fueled by discussions with Claude), particularly these statements:

> I came up with the original idea entirely independently [an idea that is predated by 20 years]

> ZPG winds up not being as interesting, I think

Let me state: you've made something neat! I like the concept, I like the heightmap aesthetic. Fwiw, most of my vibe coding experiments were about digging in sand using voxels.

However, people are hypersensitive to anyone easily impressed by AI output while simultaneously downplaying the value of human creativity.

I really appreciate the self reflection. For those of us that see it right away it's bewildering to read defenses of it as simply "good writing style". Even in the very first section it shouts Claude to me. Skimming I can understand.

The scary thing is that most of these Claudisms can be tuned down easily if that's what Anthropic was trying to do (and may in the future). Then it would be nearly impossible to tell.

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Sounds legit

You were.

> I've never been in a cliché-looking restaurant that is actually decent

You either have an absurd standard for "decent" or this is one of the weirdest comments I've ever read here.

Now that's what I call a joke.

It just kills me how there is this meme that minecraft is just walking around on a bunch of grass and dirt voxels and if you have that, you have minecraft. It was way, way more complicated than that even 15 years ago.

I tried to word my comment carefully to avoid pedantry, but alas.

I don't think everyone agree with your notion that the language and tools of mathematics aren't human inventions.

Math, like any other human endeavor, doesn't exist until someone is motivated to invent it. The laws of the universe aren't understood until someone is motivated to discover them. So it might be worthwhile to not completely ignore discussion about incentives.

Did y'all reach any consensus on that?

But they're not recreating Minecraft. They're recreating one of the most common tutorials on the internet that shows a simple voxel overworld and nothing else. That's not Minecraft.

My experience online is if you don't show full throated rejection of all things related to AI, you're labeled an AI bro. None of the antis care how you feel.

I had my decade old game completely cloned on steam (clearly done using AI as it was almost fully reimplemented in another engine). And I had several people gleefully tell me I deserve this because I've used AI.

I have complex emotions here (overall dread and especially hate for slop, since it's not just bad quality but also endless lies), but no one cares about that nuance.

And how could you possibly distinguish those scenarios without wasting all your time?

> I imagine people hundred years in the future will think of our current society rightfully as dumbfucks. But should we be surprised? 50 years ago women didn't have voting rights

Good news: the readers of your post don't have to wait 100 years to have that thought.

If you wrote this, apologies. Blame Pangram in having high confidence that most of this is AI, my spidey sense going off because it sounded strongly like AI to me before I checked Pangram, and most importantly my lack of imagination in what people finding interesting.

> I like that it begins as Asteroids, turns into a countdown race, borrows ideas from Nintendo, Bomb Jack and Pang, and then actually ends after sixteen waves that can be learnt by heart

The thing about using AI to write articles for you is, because it's tuned to be enthusiastic about everything, it doesn't know what's boring and uninteresting. Shameful.

> A taxi driver who works 60 hours a week will have very little time left over for drinking

That's plenty of time to be a full blown alcoholic.

Yea "rarely" is pretty misleading. It makes it seem like it almost never happens when it's just a slightly lower chance (if that's even true).

HN is obsessed with anything done in niche programming languages, is my guess.

They look much better. I don't know if it's just my exposure to AI images but the first place one looks so obviously like AI slop.

I'm tired of this "X was never the hard part" meme when in fact X (this time: prototyping) was in fact difficult.

I think his point was AI is really good at introducing vulnerabilities?

Why?