iklos89

> ... the cause-effect-relationship is crystal clear.

That must have been one of the most ignorant statements I read on HN.

> Just wait till you're older and then it's pay back time.

Well guess what, I know 70-year-olds still running a sub 3h marathon.

False, you can store it locally and/or in the cloud. End-to-end my ass.

Well... I did, at least I thought so. I had it on "weekly" but am not able to recover it. Doesn't matter, just wanted to make the point that I'm in favor of adapting a new messaging up not as widely used as WhatsApp.

Regarding negative social consequences ... Today I switched phones and wanted to transfer my Whatsapp contacts to the new phone. What Whatsapp did: Somehow they managed to delete me from each and every group I had been in, deleted every chat and I cannot access this anymore. I already had to explain to three friends why I left our group as they were furious because we had talked about important things in those groups.

Just to say this didn't happen with Telegram. Recovered everything smoothly with no errors.

1) Stop spreading hate and general insecurity. 2) When talking about "W Europe" cite local sources to preserve correctness of information. 3) Question: Where are you from to have such a strong opinion?