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This isn't about some women "looking manly" as you put it, it's about some males ignoring a lack of consent and imposing themselves on female-only spaces. Regarding the lesbian speed dating incidents, here's what the organiser had to say about what happened:

"One transwoman pushed himself against a lesbian in the toilets, and another, clad in purple lycra, was sporting a visible erection."

(https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/men-dont-belong-at-lesbi...)

It should be obvious why she needed to explicitly point out that her events are female-only after that sort of behaviour from the heterosexual males who were intruding. And why these incidents, and the reaction she got from furious trans activists after standing up for the sexual orientation of herself and other lesbian women, has driven her to open a private members club for lesbian women where they can rightfully exclude any and all males.

She's fighting homophobia, yet is accused of being a bigot for doing so.

Do see what I mean by this, and similar such incidents, being examples of a clash of rights?

> > People have been fired from their jobs, harassed by trans activists

> You could say the exact same thing about people being fired for racism or homophobia and being "harassed" (I wouldn't use that word for fighting bigotry, personally) for being racist or homophobic. Is that evidence that racism should be allowed everywhere?

That comparison doesn't make sense. Is it racist to state, for instance, that Rachel Dolezal isn't black?

If people don't believe that men become women by announcing that they are women, then why would they call such a man 'she' and 'her'? Makes no sense does it.

Your argument is like claiming it's Islamophobic and bigoted to state that Mohammed wasn't any sort of prophet and that the Quran is not actually a divine revelation. If you don't believe it then you shouldn't have to act like you do believe it.

Maybe the problem is best illustrated with a couple of examples.

There was an event recently in the news where the organiser of a lesbian speed dating event had to specify that it is strictly female-only. The reason was that heterosexual males (who called themselves women) had attended previous such events, despite lesbian women of course not being interested in them, and were being creepy. Trans activists complained to the venue and ended up getting her event shut down. Simply because lesbians wanted a female-only space to themselves, in accordance with their sexual orientation.

Here's what the organiser wrote about this situation:

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/04/03/trans-activists-shu...

Another example is from Australia, where their Human Rights Commission have banned lesbian women from holding female-only events, refusing to granting them an exemption under the Sex Discrimination Act because it would again exclude heterosexual males who call themselves women:

https://reduxx.info/australian-human-rights-commission-decis...

The clash of rights here is clear, lesbian women who want female-only spaces to meet other women of the same sexual orientation are being denied this because some males demand to be included. These lesbian women are being compelled to accept the false belief that such males are female or women.

Regarding your final paragraph - if you decided have a surgeon remove/reshape your penis (which isn't even a requirement by trans activist standards - most trans-identifying males don't do this) and ask everyone to refer to you as 'she' or 'her' then that in itself isn't an issue. But that's not actually what's happening. People have been fired from their jobs, harassed by trans activists, even arrested and charged for not calling these males 'she' and 'her'. So that's also how it can affect people.