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ICE is against the law. Here's some videos of them doing illegal things.
https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigratio...
> after more than an hour, agents held down Zapata Rivera’s arms. One, who Zapata Rivera’s lawyer says wore a baseball cap reading “Ne Quis Effugiat” — Latin for “So That None Will Escape” — pressed his thumbs into the arteries on Zapata Rivera’s neck. The young man then appeared to pass out as bystanders screamed.
> The technique is known as a carotid restraint. The two carotid arteries carry 70% of the brain’s blood flow; block them, and a person can quickly lose consciousness. The tactic can cause strokes, seizures, brain damage — and death.
> In a bystander video of Zapata Rivera’s arrest, his eyes roll back in his head and he suffers an apparent seizure, convulsing so violently that his daughter, seated in his lap, shakes with him.
> In a social media post after the incident and in its statement to ProPublica, DHS did not cite a deadly threat. Instead, it referenced the charges against Zapata Rivera’s wife and suggested he had only pretended to have a medical crisis while refusing help from paramedics. “Imagine FAKING a seizure to help a criminal escape justice,” the post said.
Dude. LEO shot him on purpose. You use the passive voice like it was a natural disaster or accident. He had no fire arm on him at the time of the shooting. Why are you so insistent on spinning things this way?
What causes you to believe that?
Only when you're called out, do you mention self defense. Glad to see you have shame. Bye.
You, ljsprague, believe Alex Pretti was executed for committing an offense.
Do you dispute this?
I hope you don't think that, that would be honestly disgusting. I'd strongly disagree with your stance for vigilantism and against law-and-order.
Or was he killed in self defense? And if so, why would the ICE agents be in fear for their life? I didn't see a reason myself but I want to know your perspective. Was there something in the video?
Interesting. Does having intent to interfere deserve execution?
Oh edit to add: did he interfere? And if so how?
What are you implying, ljsprague?
Counter-point: I don't think Chauvin would've been brought to justice if he were tried in some kind of cop-court.
I'm open minded though, I appreciate your perspective, gave me food for thought.
If someone were talking disprovable nonsense about fairies, it would be totally fair to bring up counter-evidence. This comment of yours is substanceless.
Is there proof of lethal self-defence being required? Then show the proof of that, nothing has come out in support of that.
Your hypothetical is big, if true... but it's not.
I trust my eyes over billionare-funded Fox News and authority figures, which is your perspective I could get anywhere.
A previous example:
You can watch the video for yourself of an ICE masked thug grabbing a man's carotid artery, when NOT facing a deadly threat, against DOJ rules. You can watch him seize and his eyes roll back. And you can choose to believe your eyes or DHS' lies. What do you think, zahlman?
See full context here: https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigratio...
> In a social media post after the incident and in its statement to ProPublica, DHS did not cite a deadly threat. Instead, it referenced the charges against Zapata Rivera’s wife and suggested he had only pretended to have a medical crisis while refusing help from paramedics. “Imagine FAKING a seizure to help a criminal escape justice,” the post said.
No star courts.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/lawyers-allege-dept-homeland-secur...
DHS denying legal council to detainees.
https://www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigratio...
ICE using chokeholds in defiance of DOJ standards for use of force.
> after more than an hour, agents held down Zapata Rivera’s arms. One, who Zapata Rivera’s lawyer says wore a baseball cap reading “Ne Quis Effugiat” — Latin for “So That None Will Escape” — pressed his thumbs into the arteries on Zapata Rivera’s neck. The young man then appeared to pass out as bystanders screamed.
> The technique is known as a carotid restraint. The two carotid arteries carry 70% of the brain’s blood flow; block them, and a person can quickly lose consciousness. The tactic can cause strokes, seizures, brain damage — and death.
> In a bystander video of Zapata Rivera’s arrest, his eyes roll back in his head and he suffers an apparent seizure, convulsing so violently that his daughter, seated in his lap, shakes with him.
> In a social media post after the incident and in its statement to ProPublica, DHS did not cite a deadly threat. Instead, it referenced the charges against Zapata Rivera’s wife and suggested he had only pretended to have a medical crisis while refusing help from paramedics. “Imagine FAKING a seizure to help a criminal escape justice,” the post said.
Is this new information to you, koolba? Or do you believe this is enforcement of laws on the books?
Glad to see you've abandoned trying to defend your lie that shooting at a vehicle is self-defence and moved on to another nonsense argument. But co-conspirator in what crime?
> save that for BlueSky where you can have a safe space.
I don't need a safe space from you. Your trolling doesn't affect me.
> Tit for tat!
He shot her 3 times, she shot him 0 times. You're expressing glee over her death. You are sick.
No, it was a plurality, not a majority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidentia...